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Who lasts past Final cuts? Some head to head matchups

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by padre31, Aug 30, 2010.

Which ones make the team or win starting roles?

Poll closed Sep 13, 2010.
  1. Marlon Moore vs Roberto Wallace

    76.2%
  2. Ryan Baker vs Charles Grant

    4.8%
  3. John Nalbone vs Rolly Lumbala

    23.8%
  4. Joe Berger vs Jake Grove

    28.6%
  5. Jason Allen vs Nate Ness

    61.9%
  6. Lydon Murtha vs Andrew Gardner

    4.8%
  7. Donald Thomas vs Cory Proctor

    38.1%
  8. Micah Johnson vs Austin Spitler

    47.6%
  9. Pat White vs Roberto Wallace

    28.6%
  10. Others

    4.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well for fun, and maybe just a bit bragging rights, here are the top position battles from my POV anyway:

    Marlon Moore vs Roberto Wallace

    Joe Berger vs Jake Grove

    John Nalbone vs Rolly Lumbala

    Donald Thomas vs Corey Proctor

    Ryan Baker vs Charles Grant

    Micah Johnson vs Austin Spitler

    Lydon Murtha vs Andrew Gardner

    Jason Allen vs Nate Ness

    Pat White vs Roberto Wallace

    Others
     
  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Moore

    Grove

    Lumbala

    Thomas

    Grant

    Spitler....special teams

    Murtha

    Allen

    Wallace
     
  3. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

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    My feeling is:

    Moore
    Grove
    Both Nalbone and Lumbala get the axe
    Thomas
    Grant
    M. Johnson
    Gardner (even though he has been outplayed by Murtha, draft picks typically get the benefit)
    J. Allen (special teams, versatility)
    Pat White (ditto on the draft pick thing)
     
  4. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    I cant see this team carrying two FBs, Padre.
     
  5. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    The Poll is confusing, so I will answer this way

    Moore

    Berger and Grove both make team

    Neither, player cut from other team

    Thomas & Procter both make team

    Grant (easiest one)

    Johnson (Spitler practice squad)

    Gardner

    Allen

    Neither
     
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  6. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    Im lost by the poll but in my mind:

    Moore
    Grove is starter
    Nalbone
    Thomas
    Grant
    Johnson
    Murtha
    Jason Allen
    Both make it
     
  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Fair enough, the only way I see it is if Lumbala is one of those behind the scenes players like Pat Cobbs that Sparano likes.
     
  8. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Head to head matchups Nj, which one will result in either a new starter being crowned or loser is waived in about a week.
     
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  9. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend Club Member

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    ^^^^
     
  10. unifiedtheory

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    Marlon Moore vs Roberto Wallace: Moore. We'll try and get Wallace on to the practice squad.

    Joe Berger vs Jake Grove: Grove opens the season as the starter but inevitably gets hurt.

    John Nalbone vs Rolly Lumbala: Neither. I don't see them using an untested fullback as a third tight end (an important position on this team) and Nalbone has been given more than enough of an opportunity. Our 3rd tight end is not on the roster currently.

    Donald Thomas vs Corey Proctor: Don Thomas by default. He has not looked great and may not last long. If someone cuts a player of interest Thomas could be a goner.

    Ryan Baker vs Charles Grant: Grant and it is not even close.

    Micah Johnson vs Austin Spitler: This is a tough one in my opinion. Johnson has shown quite a bit on normal downs and Spitler is exactly what we need because of his special teams. We could try and sneak Johnson on to the P.S. but I think someone who is thin in the middle might snap him up. Both of them are playing for their professional lives this week.

    Lydon Murtha vs Andrew Gardner: Murtha, for now. I think Ireland will be looking for a back up at cut down time. Gardner has looked absolutely dreadful.

    Jason Allen vs Nate Ness: Allen and again, not close. He can play corner, safety in a pinch and he is our best coverage player on special teams (IMO). Is he what we all hoped he would be remembering where he was picked? No, but he has found a nice little niche for himself. He's one of those guys that every team needs. He'll be on the block year after year and the next thing you know he'll have played a decade.

    Pat White vs Roberto Wallace: Neither, unless we trade Thigpen but I don't see Ireland going with White and a fragile Penny as our back ups.
     
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  11. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    The problem with J Allen is:

    Nolan Carroll and Benny Sapp already do his job(s), three Db's on 4 core St units would be unusual, so of the three, Allen appears to me to be on the top of the bubble, and if Allen is gone, that means we try to keep Ness.

    I'd be really surprised if there were no trade offers for Donald Thomas, but then again, we do not know how many Olinemen Sparano intends to keep rostered.
     
  12. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Are all the boxes on the poll supposed to get selected? I mean, we really can't pick anyone off the poll without selecting the other.
     
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  13. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    If there was a cap I would think J Allen would be gone. Since that would be a huge savings.

    Marlon Moore vs Roberto Wallace Both. Turner gets cut and Wallace is kept in the 5th wide receiver who is never activated

    Joe Berger vs Jake Grove Grove wins and get hurt and Berger takes over

    John Nalbone vs Rolly Lumbala Nalbone, the FO loves him.

    Donald Thomas vs Corey Proctor D. Thomas. Still a good run blocker.

    Ryan Baker vs Charles Grant Both, I see a surprise cut to keep Baker who can put up a decent pass rush

    Micah Johnson vs Austin Spitler M. Johnson. I was very impressed with him. Plus he got first team reps. Spitler will probably be practice squad. However if Crowder is too hurt they both might make the team

    Lydon Murtha vs Andrew Gardner Murtha by default

    Jason Allen vs Nate Ness Jason Allen. If there was a cap I would have Ness, since he is MUCH cheaper

    Pat White vs Roberto Wallace I already have Wallace making the team. White will be kept only if they could move Thigpen
     
  14. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Not sure I understand the voite padre but in head to head matchups i like

    Marlon Moore vs Roberto Wallace
    Ryan Baker vs Charles Grant
    John Nalbone vs Rolly Lumbala
    Joe Berger vs Jake Grove
    Jason Allen vs Nate Ness
    Lydon Murtha vs Andrew Gardner
    Donald Thomas vs Cory Proctor
    Micah Johnson vs Austin Spitler
     
  15. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    Im confused by the Poll also. Are we going with the first guy vs the second guy?

    With the options I'll pick Moore , Micah and Pat White the others are to open right now.

    I believe injuries are gonna play into that mix also.


    You have Moore on Wallace and Pat White on Wallace. I think moore and Pat win. Wallace had some great plays but dont see him winning this. Moore showed that he can play multiple positions and Pat I believe is getting better and they'll give him one more yr. Micah plays tough shows upside and i believe he cant be put on Practice squad or he'll be poached.
     
  16. padre31

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    Man, Rolly Lumbala just cannot get any love.

    I'm thinking of Joe Rose saying "ROLLY LUMBALA omg!!!
     
  17. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    :lol: between the two of them I really dont know if either will make the final cut. John Nalbone seems like he finally learned enough to not be completely lost in camp. I dont know if thats enough to stay. With Lumbala I just dont think they keep two FBs or a FB/TE but who knows. It wouldnt really surprise me that much. I dont think they will but we'll see
     
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  18. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    Marlon Moore vs Roberto Wallace ... right now today, Moore is more 'ready' ... Wallace needs time, the key is do you think he has so much potential that it is a risk to expose him in the PS ....

    Joe Berger vs Jake Grove -- I'd go with Grove, why -- because you know he'll get hurt and Berger would have to play anyway .... if'n it goes the other way -- we could find ourselves in trouble having to count on Grove (even if Garner is back by then)

    John Nalbone vs Rolly Lumbala .... not much competition here -- Lumbala, like Sperry is too small to play TE in our system ... Nalbone may not be progressing as planned - and 'could' be replaced after cuts ....

    Donald Thomas vs Corey Proctor ... tough call here -- but it's all on Thomas ... if he performs, he's the guy .... if not, Procter is a known .....

    Ryan Baker vs Charles Grant ... same as above .... I would like to see Baker because he is young, but if he can't contribute now -- then we need to go with Grant, given our OLB situation

    Micah Johnson vs Austin Spitler ... this comes down to STs .... and Johnson seems to have the edge -- something i did not see coming .... but certainly is not a bad thing

    Lydon Murtha vs Andrew Gardner .... these were both very good prospects, and honestly i would prefer to keep both of these and jet both Thomas and Procter .... this regime likes to bring in Ts and move them around, just like Garner .... big OL

    Jason Allen vs Nate Ness ... comes down to STs ... which probably gives Allen the edge, but unlike most -- i would keep Ness

    Pat White vs Roberto Wallace ... White has no future here, so Wallace ....
     
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  19. PhinsRock

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    Poll is confusing to me too, but what isn't? :lol:

    Marlon Moore vs Roberto Wallace - Turner beats Wallace, Wallace on PS
    Ryan Baker vs Charles Grant
    John Nalbone vs Rolly Lumbala
    Joe Berger vs Jake Grove
    Jason Allen vs Nate Ness
    Lydon Murtha vs Andrew Gardner
    Donald Thomas vs Cory Proctor
    Micah Johnson vs Austin Spitler (hope we can safely stash Spitler on PS)
     
  20. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Some more information:

    Just listened to Sparano on QAM and he said Soliai has "embarrassed" the young centers he has faced this preseason and Big Paul will play 30 snaps a game with Starks also playing on the nickel rush he'll play 45 snaps.

    Soliai will in essence be that run clogging 3-4 NT to give Starks a rest.

    Which means Ryan Baker's utility is not as valuable as it would have been if Soliai had remained what he was..
     
  21. unifiedtheory

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    Pretty much exactly how we all could have hoped it would go. Starks starts at the nose but does not stay there. I'm sure he'll play some end in the 3 man line and of course tackle in the 4 man line. I'm so glad the light went on for Big Paul. Dude can be a wrecking ball.
     
  22. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    Soliai will have a break out year this year I believe. His light has turned on.
     

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