keep Taylor & Porter is an inappropriate expense we are strong @ OLB: Wake, Moses, Anderson could trade Porter, lessen expenditures & lose very little in our defense we need to find help @ ILB Wilson is the keeper, Bell will go. don't need two starting SS's Clemons is the future @ FS, hope to see him play the entire game against the Steelers we need another NT to work into the lineup (Ferguson will not be around very long) & we need serious talent @ ILB not so much to fix for next year
I really fail to see how Ginn's draft position has any bearing on keeping him or not. He had zero control over where he was drafted. If you have/had expectations of him being Randy Moss because of where he was drafted, then that's just you bein silly Posted via Mobile Device
We let Hill walk and had a hole to fill......call it desperate, hasty......whatever It was a move that made no more sense then than it does in hindsight....adding a safety with poor coverage skills, to pair with Bell was/is a train wreck.
Hasty I could possibly agree with, but that doesn't make it desperate. The signing of Wilson made an incredible amount of sense at the time IMO. We signed Wilson before we signed Bell, so if you wish to complain about a move making no sense (at the time), it was the resigning of Bell after just having signed Wilson. Wilson at SS would probably not be that bad of a thing, if not a very good thing.
Bell has been the best DB we have had in years. I ONLY SEE HIM GOING IN A MONEY MOVE. If 14 million is right...bye, bye. IMHO Ginn is too soft. Runs straight to the sideline so he won't get hit (unless a defender is in his way). I see him staying only for his speed. Crowder needs to go. He is my #1 cut. We definetely need 2 play making ILB's. Draft one or two and sign one in FA. I would like to see another stud guard signed. One that will not be injury prone.
Lot of important things to come in the offseason, but cutting Crowder before Ayodele, Torbor or Anderson? Not sure about that - especially if it comes to money. I believe that both Anderson and Ayodele are due to make more than Crowder this coming year (since it's the last year of both their contracts). I really thing Crowder stays, but you're right, we definitely need a playmaker (McClain, Spikes, a free agent like Dansby, etc.) inside next to Crowder and have Crowder take over Ayodele's spot.
Personally, I'll take Bell over Wilson any day....and I have a hard time believing Bell wasn't always in their plans, regardless of Wilson. No amount of excuses changes the fact that this was very poor foresight on the FO's part......the two are a very bad pairing. As we have painfully witnessed all season. Given both of their skill sets, they had to see this coming.
Where are the excuses the FO is making? Or from anyone else for that matter about the FO's foresight on this? I said when we resigned Bell that it didn't make much sense, given that we just signed Wilson. If we are strictly speaking for the SS position, I'm taking Wilson over Bell, but to each their own.
Cutting Channing Crowder is laughable IMO. He is very solid and while not the best is still better than average. His biggest issue is causing Turnovers. Bell should go and Let Wilson stay. Wilson is younger and a better player overall. Get a nice coverage FS and our secondary will look much better
On what planet is Wilson better than Bell? I mean honestly, what is it that some of you guys are seeing that makes you think this?
This is such silly revisionist bull****. There's absolutely no argument that you could suggest that at the time of the signing that Gibril Wilson was a "cast off" with less value than Darren Sharper. And yeah, the Saints? You wanna look at that current administrations track record? Because you can start with Reggie Bush.
Revisionist? ....lol.....yeah ok You're surprised that Sharper has more ball skills than Wilson? Idk, maybe you just didn't see enough of them I guess. We're most likely to be the 2nd team in a row to let him walk, early in his contract....."cast-off" Sharper having 8 picks is no more of a surprise than Wilson not being able to catch a ball if it was thrown to him underhanded. We needed a ball hawk....we chose a guy who's the very definition of liability in coverage. The Saints? Yeah I see what you mean.......can't believe those idiots passed on Culpepper for Brees and then to top it off, they waste a 7th round pick on Colston. That team was all but packed up and on the road to San Antonio and within no time, they're one of the best teams in football. That wasn't luck, pal.
Getting a WR who has performed like Colston in the 7th is absolutely luck. If it were not luck, then he would've been taken a lot higher. Getting a player like Meachem or Devery Henderson was not luck, but Colston absolutely was. Just like getting Tom Brady in the 6th and having him turn into one of the best was absolutely lucky. And the "ball being thrown underhand" comment really doesn't make much sense, because Wilson has proven to have adequate hands over his career. No he isn't a ball hawk, and he may be a liability in coverage, but it's silly to turn his ability to catch into a caricature (just like what was done with Ginn).
And I still dont see a valid argument to show Wilson is better then Bell. When on the field, Bell is much better. Hes a much much much better tackler, takes better angles and is smarter. Both have stone hands, Wilson has better interception numbers because hes played more FS in his career and Bell has been closer to the line as a fourth LB more in his career then Wilson. no one is going to accuse Bell of being Troy Polamalu in the play making department, but he sure is hell a lot more SOLID of a SS then Wilson.
I don't think that Wilson was a cast off. IMO the error was in the coaches plan to try and use two SSs. Now maybe they thought this was a throw away year and the plan was to cut Bell after the season. Bell's contract would suggest as much since he's due something like $14 million next year. Maybe they saw no viable, long term FSs on the market and just did the best they could for the long term.
Possibly, altho after watching him struggle all year, they may revise that plan....14 million next year? Ouch..
He did that himself last Sunday.... You can call Colston luck if you please.......I'd say it's more attributed to good scouting.
I didn't say ball skills. I said overall ability. The full package. If you claim to have had any idea Sharper was going to be that much better than Wilson you are pretty much a liar. Further, to suggest the Saints FO has been remarkably better than ours pretty much completely ignores the reality of the Saints last several years. They've looked a whole lot like us over the past couple of years.
That's simply not true. Wilson averages 2 picks a year, and this is arguably only his 2nd year ever at FS. Bell has 3 CAREER INTs, and it has nothing to do with him playing SS.
Liar? So you're not buying that I'm rich, handsome and currently typing this while sitting by the pool and staring at the ocean from my Palm Beach mansion? Ok fine, does working at a bunch of them count? Maybe you should take the time to do a little research on Sharper's career...you obviously know little about him. Do you realize that this is his THIRD year with 9 INT's? Several time Pro Bowler, etc, etc... And yeah we're a carbon copy of the Saints.....you know with both of us being in a Conference Championship game a couple years ago and then this year making a run at being undefeated......oh wait You guys can think differently/ be wrong all you want......I'll stick to my opinion and you can have yours. The beauty of America
