Nobody. This story was blown out of proportion by an emotionally unstable player. The rookie hazing that is now considered bullying is a league wide issue and an NFL problem, not a Miami Dolphin problem. Once the dust settles the main victim will be Richie while Martin will be laughing to the bank.

 

I've been there you are in charge you take the hit.
One caveat, you should be able to know what is going on, if Martin told him, Philbin is gone, period.

 

Big mistake was to not pay Martin, that is what got this **** going, that was a huge mistake.

 

Indeed. Need more details, if Martin told him specifically what was going on between him and Incognito, and Philbin didn't do anything about it, he needs to go.

 

Depends on if Martin would leave him similiar voicemails..

I've worked in many different environments and nearly every single one of them involved people of different races or religions making fun of each other, often non-stop. In a male dominated environment I would say it's more the norm than anything.

HOWEVER, if they knew Martin was emotionally unstable, they should have toned it down. Especially if he really was suicidal.

 

Which is Aponte/Ireland I'd think. Neither of who strikes me as super generous, warm hearted, nor compassionate in their roles. Not that they should be... just saying they are the opposite extreme imo.

 

You don't issue a public statement on behalf of the organization calling the victim crazy.

The right thing to do is to clean house. Ross has not done the right thing.

 

mental issues. Not necessarily a medical term but a polite way of saying he is crazy.

 

Actually, Ross is probably doing the right thing. He wants an external investigation into the matter so no one will be biased. He's not making a knee jerk reaction to media reports.

 

I really cant blame Philbin for this,werent these voice mails and texts done in April in the off season .How is he suppose to know what these guys are doing in April

 

People need to stop jumping to conclusions and pay more attention to the facts we have.

Philbin hasn't done anything wrong. He was told of Martin's issues in April. Martin didn't blame Incognito or anything. He just discussed with Philbin his own issues. There was no incident and martin even joined in with the others and hazed and pranked players himself. He got demoted when McKinnie came in and got depressed. I minor prank was played on him (which was the same one he helped play on garner a week earlier) and he lost it.

Not only has Philbin been on top of it the whole time and reacted accordingly as new info has come out, be also coached the team to an overtime victory against a 6-2 team on a short week during all this.

People calling for Philbin's head for this are a 100% wrong.

 

These are the official press releases about Martin:

Nov. 3

Nov. 3:

 

How do you know what was said between Martin and Philbin?
How do you know that Philbin was/is on top of all this?

Martin didn't get demoted, Clabo got demoted, Martin changed postions.

 

Unless the Dolphins told Ritchie to target Martin, the Dolphins players and coaches should be left out of this. Martin should take his case to the DA and if the DA feels their is enough there, press charges. Sort this out in court.

 

Can we use it as an excuse to get rid of Mike Sherman please...

 

Philbin said that Martin never once called out a specific player to him. Watch the PC on the official site.
Its been reported that he had dealt with it when it came up in April.

 

Horse ****.

Incognito was under the impression that this "emotionally unstable" player had tried to commit suicide three times- as per esteemed ThePhins posted mommabilly. How can you possibly think equipped with that knowledge that Incognito is not at all culpable?

 

Do you think it's a good sign that Philbin learned about what had been occurring in his locker room from the media?

 

Don't need to watch the PC, at this point, Philbin can't be trusted. If he took care of this issue in April, why is this national news today?

 

Culpable for what? At this point we have a voicemail of Incognito saying some weird and aggressive things.

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To be fair, we don't when Incognito had knowledge of Martin's issues. The voice mails happened all the way back in April. We also don't know if the things Mommabilly said were accurate either.

The fact of the matter is that Martin was mentally stable enough at various times this season to participate in hazing and pranking.

 

GM , coaches , veteran players , players. To varying degrees , everyone may be accountable for parts of this imo .

 

Official does not mean that it was necessarily a press release that you can find on the site.
Official statement is any statement made by a rep to press. Official statement all week last week was that he is out dealing with mental, emotional issues.

 

The report is that Martin had only relayed personal issues towards Philbin back in April, not anything involving Incognito.

 

This is precisely the kind of bull**** that makes this site unbearable at times.

You ask a goddamned question, are given an answer and the evidence to review, and instead of educating yourself, you just stick your already held bull****.

Welcome to ignore.

 

leadership more than Philbin, unless of course Philbin is the one having beers and going to strip clubs with these guys.. which I doubt

 

No I think its a bad reflection on the coaching staff that they were so out of touch with how Martin was feeling. Philbin has been a pretty big disappointment as a HC so far. That being said I do not see this as the organizations responsibility. This issue is between Martin and Incognito and they should settle it between themselves.

 

Messing with a teammate until he felt like he had to leave the team, and causing a huge media embarrassment and **** storm.

 

No, an official statement is an official statement, hence why they are called, get this....official statements.

 

Some of you really think Philbin should be fired because of this? wow. I don't know about you guys but ever since day one when we drafted this kid and I listened to his interviews he's always seemed a little odd. He never really seemed very confident in himself while answering questions or what not. I think maybe Jeff and crew could of done a little more work into his background or character. I don't know maybe it was impossible to tell but to me he didnt have that mentality of a typical NFL offensive lineman. But I don't really see how Philbin could be fired over this.

 

Really like and agree with what Bill Polian said tonight on the pre game show .

What in the hell were the other players that knew doing , especially the veteran leaders?

 

Oh please, please don't ignore me....lol
Go ahead, make my day....