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WHOA!!! Winston alleged to tanking first half of Louisville game to cover pal's bet!

Discussion in 'College Sports' started by Ronnie Bass, Nov 7, 2014.

  1. Ronnie Bass

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    http://www.tmz.com/2014/11/07/jameis-winston-allegations-point-shaving-louisville-chris-rabb/

    It is TMZ but damn.
     
  2. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    ....lol...come on.
     
  3. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I don't even know wgat to think. I know CK gives Winston a lot of benefit of the doubt but its starting to be something new every week or two.

    Though without any sort of record its again very difficult to prove.
     
  4. Ronnie Bass

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    In fairness to Winston TMZ gives nothing to back up their allegations
     
  5. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    IMO There are two theories.

    1) Where there is smoje there is fire.

    2) Winston has just become a very easy target.
     
  6. byroan

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    People are just looking for anything to bring him down.
     
  7. Ronnie Bass

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    If it's #2 and TMZ just ran with speculation, I would sue their asses off if I'm Winston, this is the **** that can bury someones career.
     
  8. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    It looks like it is a rumor started by that guy "Incarcerated Bob" or whatever. You can google him I'm pretty sure. From what I know the guy is a low life.



    I'm not a fan of Winston but this one seems made up.
     
  9. Ronnie Bass

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    I'm a diehard hockey fan so I know who he is, he throws **** on the wall to see what sticks.
     
  10. Vertical Limit

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    Uh i dont see anything Winston did in the first half that looked like he legitimately sucked on purpose. His first half struggles were real. this is a disrespect to Louisville who played an amazing first half and by the eay Im sure Winston gives no ****s about 5000 when hes about to make millions

    Did he purposely throw a second half interception too to start? Please. And some of those throws in the second half were way too close for comfort, he wouldnt risk playing bad when he had a legit shot to lose
     
  11. Aqua4Ever04

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    Wouldn't he shave points at the end once the game was in hand?

    This story has about as much credibility as that incarcerated bob fella.
     
  12. MikeHoncho

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    Sports reporting in 2014 folks. It's just barely journalism.
     
  13. ToddPhin

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    ??? Allegedly his friend placed a bet that Louisville would be winning by halftime. Shaving points at the end would kinda defeat that purpose, no?
     
  14. ToddPhin

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    Winston doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt. Doing that means giving NO benefit of the doubt to the girl involved in the rape, and she certainly has MORE credibility than he does as someone who doesn't have a history of having a problem with the word "NO", doesn't have a history of stealing stuff [rape is one of the worst forms of theft], and doesn't have a history of anti-social and illegal behavior. But yeah, if someone is to get the benefit of the doubt, let's give it to the delinquent. :unsure: WADR to CK, a lot of the stuff he mentioned about the case in support of Winston are factually incorrect. I can say this as someone who read the entire report and every bit of information on the case, Chris Casher, Winston, and the Tallahassee PD I could find.

    Winston raped that chick. It didn't start out as rape. The girl, just like the one before her, thought she was in for a fun evening with a football player. Then Winston and Casher made sure it wasn't fun anymore, and the consensual encounter suddenly turned to rape, but rape nonetheless. It started with Casher basically calling dibs on the girl because he talked to her first. Then Jameis likely turned it into a competition just like guys sometimes do, but he took it too far. Casher started videotaping it and tried to jump in because he said it's something they've done before and is normal football behavior for them. Knowing it's being taped, Winston likely tried to turn it into a spectacle and show off, prove how much of a man he is in bed, and show the guys watching just how far he can take it and denigrate the girl, especially after Casher turned it into a competition. The girl starts to understand what's going on and sees it being videotaped, realizes this isn't the type of experience she had in mind, and decides she wants no part in it. Jameis however thinks consensual sex grants him permission to become a monster and abuse the hell out of the poor girl, just like he thinks getting a free cup of water from Burger King grants him permission to dump it out and fill it repeatedly with soda despite the workers telling him to stop, just as he thinks he's entitled to do $4000 in damage to his apartment complex in a pellet gun war just hours after the police stopped him at gunpoint on campus for playing with the same damn pellet gun there. She may or may not have been hit in the head; it could've been done so open-handedly and not left a mark but sure as hell made her head hurt. And she certainly did enough drinking for someone who was reportedly "not much a drinker" to feel disoriented by the time she finally sat or laid down and allowed the world to start spinning. By 11:30 that night, her friend Marcus said she was already drunk, just not sloppy drunk; however, she hadn't finished drinking yet by 11:30 [last call was 12 and she did at least 1 other shot], and it's likely that the affects of her prior shots hadn't yet caught up to her. We all know how it gets with shots, even the best of us drinkers- we're fine, we're fine, we're fine, and then suddenly that one last shot just wrecks us, especially when we sit down or get into bed and the ceiling looks like it's attached to a fan. The State Attorney even suggested that it's possible her BAC at the time of the incident was around .10, and for someone who doesn't do a lot of drinking, that's certainly enough to f*** them up considerably more than someone who's built up a tolerance.

    From there, Tallahassee PD already knew that day who Chris Casher [the football player the rape victim identified] was, knew that Winston and Ronald Darby were his roommates and thus were likely the other guys involved, and knew where they lived which TPD said matched the description the victim gave. The girl had semen in her panties [Winston's], bruising on her arm and knee [victim said she was held down by Winston], visible redness to her foot [victim said she tried to kick him off her], and it's alleged by her attorney that the nurse documented blood in her panties/shorts, vomiting, chills, a need for Valium to ease her anxiety [none of which has been refuted that I've seen], all of which the attending clinician believed was the result of sexual assault.... but apparently that's still not enough to investigate rape, at least not when FSU football players are involved. Meanwhile, you or I could call the police right now and have them at our door within 20 minutes to investigate a domestic disturbance or to tell the neighbors to turn their music down. The ensuing investigation was nothing short of a mockery of the law enforcement system, and it ensured Winston would never be prosecuted. Here's a quote from TPD "investigator" Scott Angulo to his boss on January 11 [5 weeks after the rape]: "Winston does live in the area that she remembers going that night. His complex is set up like the vic described. He is of similar size.” This email statement was preceded by one telling his boss Winston’s name, birthday, that he was African American, and that “Winston is a FSU football player.” Angulo also noted in the email that TPD already had a goddam phone number on Winston from the pellet gun war from 2 weeks prior.

    I know CK and others like to have you believe she lied about a bunch of stuff, including the perpetrator's height, but as you can see, that's not the case. The height description matched Winston's. There was a guy at the bar the police questioned her about, and that's the person's height she described as being 5'9 to 5'11. They'll have you believe that she lied about phone calls made that night to her friend Monique, when in fact it was TPD who submitted this nonsense despite PHONE RECORDS proving otherwise. They'll have you believe, just like TPD wants us to believe, that there were conflicting statements from her friends that make her seem like she was lying. Well, the f***ing TPD hadn't yet officially interviewed a single one of her goddam friends at that point, and the main "conflicting" statement they used was the one about her saying she tried to call Monique 2 times and that Monique said it was odd because she never got a call or even a missed call, which is total BULLS**T because the victim's phone records show 2 calls to Monique at 1:40 and 1:46AM. They'll have you believe the State Attorney's office didn't feel there was enough to make a case. That's not actually true, as they didn't get wind of the case for almost a year after the fact, and once they finally did, they thought enough of it to instruct TPD to follow up on DNA leads, interview witnesses [Casher, Darby], investigate phone records, check with the cab companies, and visit the locations involved [the bar and Winston's residence]. HOWEVER, this was now 11 months after the f***ing fact so of course there'd be ZERO goddam evidence or memory left of that night for the State Attorney's office to go on. If the State Attorney's office were properly made aware of the case at the time of the incident, all of this critical stuff would've been done THAT DAY or shortly thereafter while everything was still fresh since they knew exactly who the hell Chris Casher was, where he lived, and who his roommates were. There was sure as hell enough cause to do so. Hey, but they finally did investigate phone records- HER GODDAM PHONE RECORDS, HER GODDAM TEXT MESSAGES, and HER GODDAM SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS. Amidst all this extensive monitoring, there wasn't a single shred to suggest she made it up, and for a girl whom people try to make look like as a ****, there was next to nothing by way of perverted or sexual talk, not even jokingly or playfully with her friends.

    If you read through the police report, it looks more like an investigation of her than anyone, like she was the goddam rapist. Have you read Casher & Darby's statements? They didn't even try to hide the fact that they were written by Winston's attorney. Each statement was broken down into 8 numerical parts, and each part was identical to the other with the exception of some of the words being arranged differently. This doesn't even get into the fact Tallahassee PD brought case information to Winston's attorney before they brought it to the State Attorney's office [which is f***ing insane], nor the fact that TPD gave copies of the case to FSU PD, nor the fact that the victim's initial drug screening didn't test for Zolpidem [Ambien] which is now a common date-rape drug and is short acting in the body- only about 4 hours, and that the followup drug screening only used urine which isn't traceable with DNA. It's still possible that she was in fact feeling "drugged", and the investigator, who is documented, diehard FSU football fan and has a mother who was a member of Jameis Winston's Facebook Fan Page, submitted a clean urine specimen that he passed off as hers.


    But who needs all that when you have common sense? The girl realized she was being videotaped. The 4 of them knew what was on that goddam tape. Either it was consensual sex that would make her look like a liar or it was nonconsensual that would incriminate Winston & Casher. If she knew it were consensual and was concretely on tape, then why the hell would she claim she was raped, let her friend call the police, and go through all the motions if she knew proof existed against her? Likewise, if the encounter were consensual like Winston, Casher, and Darby would have us believe, then why would they destroy the only piece of evidence that could prove to the world Winston is 100% innocent?
     
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  15. Nappy Roots

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    Shut up Todd lol
     
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    I wonder if Winstons friend also knows Andy Dalton... dun dun dun!
     
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  17. MikeHoncho

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    Some deplorable stuff. Hope FSU and the PD pay for this but they won't as long as Winston continues to be a cash cow. If he were just another student or frat guy he'd still be in jail right now.

    And even then the reputation as a winning program always trumps the reputation as an institution that condones sexual assault. Funny world we live in.
     
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  18. ToddPhin

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    Sorry Naps, you know I love ya man. :ffic:
     

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