Because they are a NFL football team

 

Before the Seahawks game, it was made known that Carroll had put on a twitter contest in which fans submitted their ideas for the first play of preseason; one fan won, and that fan's play was run.

Can you ever see Sparano even having the wit to do something like that, much less actually go through with it?

No, coach meathead will continue building more walls between the team and fans. He's a small man with a small mind, in a big job.

 

Are you serious? You really have to ask why?

 

It was a preseason game. A game that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. I'd love to see Carroll do that in a regular season game, but he wouldn't.

 

Carroll was the only coach who did that? Does that mean every other coach is a small man with a small mind, or just Tony?

 

Harbaugh did it with the Ravens during a regular game. I believe the call was successful, too.

 

I could really care less whether Sparano does jack crap to appease the fans wrt media or calling a play.
I give a crap whether he makes the right decisions during a game that contributes to winning. Anything else is a waste of time

 

IMO the reason they are so paranoid about posting the practice videos isn't about seeing the plays/formations. I think it has to do with trying to slip players onto the practice squad and not giving teams extra film.

 

You sure it was Harbaugh?

 

I can see why. More of a thinking ahead for a preventive measure. Stop it before it gets to the point where it is a issue.

 

I would think after the what happened with New England no teams would want anything video taped,it 's not so much what will be revealed in preseason but the fact that their plays are recorded might cause a little paranoia.

 

I think that it was a fairly lengthy clip that got posted.

I think it's one thing to put up a clip of a great play in a practice, it's another altogether to put up several series worth of stuff that other teams can potentially use against us.

And I think looking to Pete Carroll of all coaches for inspiration is just silly.

 

All of the sudden?

This has been policy for years. And it's common sense IMO.

These kids put 30 minutes worth of uninterrupted video up on YouTube. They even said up front that they knew they weren't supposed to be doing it.

Why make it any easier for opposing teams to have a look at you?

I doubt the coaches put any time into this. I'm pretty sure it was something to the effect of, "What? Yeah, get that taken down."

 

I don't see what the big deal is about asking for a little common sense out of the fans.

The team opens practice for what, 3 straight weeks? Are they not to work on anything beyond vanilla in that time?

It's a simple rule posted right up for everyone to see at camp. Don't video. And if you do, don't post 30 minutes of it on Youtube.

 

Probably cause we're playing the Pats week 1.. (cough) spygate... Belichick doesn't need an extra look at out newly installed offense.

 

What does this have to do with asking fans not to video camp (much less post it on Youtube and link to it on various websites)?

 

Okay, let me break this down for you Barney style...

If another NFL team has someone film the Dolphins practices, it's a rules violations. If a fan posts it on the internet, it become public domain and no one is culpable.

Now, do you REALLY want to give any team, particularly the Patriots a free shot at what we're doing in practice? Where we're strong, where we're weak and exploiting that on game day?

 

I don't think that's true. I remember that a couple of years ago the Redskins tried selling tickets to their practices, but were then told that they could not legally ban other team's scouts as long as they (or somebody) paid for the ticket. So teams went back to free practices so that they could ban scouts.

 

A boy from the Make a Wish Foundation I believe, or just one with a terminal illness, asked to call a play for Baltimore.

 

WEEI was absolutely tooling on them for this yesterday....

 

Movies are public and you are not supposed to video tape movies and put them on the internet.

I do not understand how you do not understand why the Dolphins wouldn't want their practices recorded and put on youtube.

 

Wow original poster. Remember that thing the Patriots got in trouble for? Well this is like doing the work for them.

 

Not if it is on private property. Just because you invite the public doesn't make it public domain. Look at movies. They are in public and you are not allowed to video tape.

Why haven't you seen other teams make the statement? What other team has had a fan post a 30 minute video of practice.

It makes plenty of sense. I have no idea how you think it doesn't make sense.

 

Because no other teams have tape of their practices on the internet?

Are you suggesting they don't practice anything until the practices are closed?

 

You're making an assumption that they ran anything secretive to begin with. We really don't know either way.

Our point is that it's the principle of the matter.

Remember back in the late '90s when the Dolphins used to let the beat writers watch regular season practices. There was a mutual understanding that they wouldn't abuse their access.....until one of them wrote about a fake field goal they were working on for that week's game. Jimmy was rightfully livid and booted all of them. Now days they let them see an early portion (usually about 10 minutes) and that's it.

There's black and white, and there's common sense.

Common sense says you root for the Dolphins and you don't abuse the opportunity to watch camp, disrespect their rules and potentially aid the opponent.

Again, this has been the policy going back to at least the Wannstedt era. And it isn't the first time the Dolphins have asked video to be removed. It happened at the old site before Youtube existed.

Summarize the scenario: the team posts a sign for the last decade asking fans not to video camp. Fans admittedly break the rules, video camp, post 30 minutes worth on YouTube. And the Dolphins are wrong for trying to get the videos taken down?

 

No, the real point is: what the **** do the Dolphins run on Offense that is so damn innovative that it shouldn't be disseminated?

Clue: Indonesians have been using vanilla for centuries...sure can't be that.

 

I have to agree with String here.

We fans can be pretty ungrateful. Let's look at it from the team's angle.

They do not want other teams to see what happens in practice, and especially not have film of it. The smart thing to do is hold closed practices. But they want to consider their fans, so they let their fans in to see them and only ask that their fans not hurt the team they root for by making it easy for opponents to get video of their practices. The team is already making a concession to benefit the fans, not themselves, by opening practices to the fans.

Now, if fans Boo, and fans post videos despite rules that they may not do so, the fans will eventually stop being invited to practices.

Yes, that's bad for realtions, but if the team has a better chance of winning, that's what will matter more.

 

The answer is: we really don't know yet. We haven't seen the new offense.

Hell, why not just Fedex our playbooks then? Perhaps have our coaches share a booth with the opponent?

:D

 

One more thought... a lot of what sucks about this team is the WAY it handles things. The Phins have a right to expect fans not to undermine the team, but the way it is handled looks insensitive, and a-hole-ish.

Like the difference between a nice bouncer asking you to do something, and the dick with zero interpersonal skills grabbing you and shoving you out the door roughly while he talks to you like you're a jailbird instead of a valued customer who made a mistake.

Just because a fan does something the organization doesn;t like, does NOT mean they can treat the fan like a football player who is in trouble. THEY work for US, and even when we are wrong, they had better inform us with some humility, courtesy and class.

 

FedEx is so impersonal. Perfect for this regime.

Most teams with a human touch will hand-deliver their playbooks to opponents with some flowers.

 

This friggen cracked me up!

 

As a fan of the Dolphins I am against any action that could give an advantage to an opponent. This is especially true for this pre-season because they don't have a full training camp to work every thing in. We have a new OC so there is very little time for the new offense to be learned by the offensive players and they don't have the luxury of a lot of closed practices to do it. We have a new offense and several new offensive players and it would be a bad idea to give teams a chance to study the new plays and what the new players can do, especially a free preview on You Tube. It sounds more like common sense than a small mind.