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Why I am starting to believe in Adam Gase

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Pauly, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    I have been in wait and see mode on Adam Gase, and now I am starting to feel he could be a genuinely good coach, probably the first since JJ if not The Don.

    1) He is holding himself accountable. Against the Seahawks he publicly said he didn't listen to Tannehill about changing the playcalling and he was wrong for not doing so. He has said it was the when the OL came to him in the Pitsburgh game and told him that the running game would work that he shifted his playcalling. It's more than just giving credit to players he has said when and where he was wrong.

    2) Players are accountable. Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner are given chances and fail and they are cut. Maxwell plays below expectations and is benched. Ajayi sulks after not being named starter and is left behind. Players now realize that they are not entitled to be a starter and they're not entitled to a roster spot. They know they have to perform.

    3) Players are rewarded for good performance. Under previous regimes Ajayi would have been in the doghouse all season after his underwhelming start to the year. But with Gase he gets an opportunity to redeem himself and then gets opportunities because he was doing the right thing.

    4) He seems to be getting the idea that running the ball is not a sin. Under Philbin/Lazor we would have dialled in a 85/15 pass/run ratio after falling behind 17-6 against the Bills and Ajayi would have ended the game with 80 or 90 yards rushing and 5-6 ypc and we'd have registered another loss and the boards would be aflame with threads about Tannehill not being up to standard.

    5) He seems to be calling plays with a serious intent to influencing the defenses later in the game. An example is the Stills TD against Buffalo, by having Stills going deep all game, he influenced the D to roll the CB and S to the deep side of the field and allowed a deliberately underthrown ball to be open for a big gain. I don't think he expected both defenders to fall down and let Stills go all the way, but the play design was based on having already influenced the D to respect the deep threat. He used screens just outside the tackles against Seattle to slow down the pass rush.

    There are still some areas that I'm not so happy with. He has been a little slow to adjust his schemes to his players strengths when this was one of his advertised features. His game planning in some games (Bengals, Browns) has been less than fantastic. Keeping both D Thomases on the roster for so long.
     
  2. Pandarilla

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    I remember a play early in the Steelers game where Ajayi ripped off a nice chunk against the Steelers. I said to myself, "****, run the same play." He did. He didn't go away from the run down eleven, either. Most coaches seemingly make that mistake all the time.

    Currently he's facing the dilemma of discipling his team on stupid penalties without neutering them.
     
  3. JPPT1974

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    Yeah as really Gase has a lot to learn. Over on that as the head coach. Hopefully he will mature and find rythem with the team.
     
  4. dirtylandry

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    Gase never thought running was a sin. In Denver and Chicago he ran the ball very well, it's just that when the line was in disarray here for 5 weeks, we couldn't run at all
     
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  5. Pauly

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    I was making more of a contrast with previous regimes. But also many coaches play lip service to the running game but go pass wacky when the acid is applied. I'd say at least 85% of the coaches in the NFL would abandon the run if they were down 17-6 to Buffalo deep into the third quarter.
     
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    But our situation was different. Ajayi had over 100 even down 17-6. The defense was playing relatively well. And the pass game was average, except for a few plays. I think if there was more of a deficit, maybe. But the lesson learned is clean up penalties and keep this offense on the field


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  7. DolphinGreg

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    I totally agree. All good observations. So far Gase has shown us a lot to like.

    That said, I don't want to get ahead of myself. I think he's still trying to figure out this team. I agree with Travis in that I believe Gase vision will depend largely on who he feels are his best weapons. In Denver they featured the receivers between the 20s and the TEs in the redzone. In Chicago they utilized the TEs and ran a lot.

    Who knows exactly who the stars are in Miami? 2 weeks ago we thought we badly needed a RB and the thought of Arian Foster retiring would've scared many of us. I don't think Gase knew what he had in Jay Ajayi. I think he might have over-estimated what he had in Foster. We all got that stuff wrong. :) And I think that is the kind of stuff this year is going to show us.

    The thing that I've loved the most about the last couple weeks is really the play of the back-up TEs. Several people have mentioned it but it still hasn't been said enough. The Fins are a better team because their TEs are playing the more traditional dual-role and honestly, it might be addition by subtraction with Cameron out. Truthfully, I have no wish to see him return.

    I also think Gase may have grown a little cold on Landry. In the first 3 weeks, Landry caught 24 balls for 314 yards. Over the last 3 weeks, Landry's caught 15 balls for 197. That's a drop of about 1/3rd, which I think is actually good. They're running more and featuring Landry about as much as he ought to be. What's disappointing is Parker's absence. He's become nothing more than a possession receiver as of late. His Louisville tape proves me can be a deep receiver and a big-time red-zone threat. Watching him catch 5-yard out routes is depressing. Either he's not impressing Gase or something else is wrong. While Landry is on pace for 105 catches and 1,300 yards, Parker is on pace for only 57 catches and 737 yards. Miami should be getting a lot more than that from their supposed feature receiver! If things continue on this path, Kenny Stills may have a bigger season than Devante Parker. That's crazy. Parker needs to learn a lesson from Jay Ajayi. Get your head on, commit and let Gase put you in a position to succeed.
     
  8. KeyFin

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    For me, the biggest positive with Gase is that he has shown that he's not taking any sh!t from anyone- players, coaches or executives. I can't say too much here but his idea to start firing people a few weeks ago was not well received in the front office, but he put his foot down and said it was the right football move. So I'm personally okay with his inexperience because he's definitely not a "yes man" and someone who's content to go with the flow. We've needed someone like him for quite some time now, in my opinion.

    The other thing that really impresses me is that while he's a hard-***, he's hard on everyone...himself included. When he messes up the guy openly admits it, plus offers solutions so the mistake is not repeated. At the same time though, he has people's backs when they do what he says regardless of the outcome. That's pretty darn rare in any profession folks, and I think it's played a big factor in lifting this team up after some really bad games.

    All I can say is, I HATE that we have a darn bye this weekend. I want to see some Miami football!
     
  9. MikeHoncho

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    Simple: He got rid of Dallas and Billy.

    Also, we won two straight games and I've had no reason to question him during that stretch (see: Winning).
     
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  10. number21

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    Just because of that he's better than Philbin.
     
  11. Pauly

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    I definitely got the idea that the purge was Gase's version of I listened to you guys, but you were wrong and I should have done what I wanted to do in the first place.

    If you compare what Gase said after losses with for example Rex Ryan. Sexy Rexy was the 'we wuz outcoached and out-tuffed' kind of statement that in reality means nothing and holds noone accountable. i go back to Gase after Seattle saying he was wrong not to listen to Tannehill, which is the opposite. Blame is placed at the specific person's door for specific reasons. in this case it was himself which is really important. Could you imagine, for example, Nick Saban ever saying he was wrong and he should have listened to his players? He even did this after the win against Pittsburgh. The players know that if they get called out its because its the truth, not a coach seeking to deflect blame onto his players (for example the packers game 2 years ago when we had an LB covering a WR on the game winning play Philbin and the coaching staff never accepted accountability for that).

    One thing I am really grateful for is that we don't face the Patriots again until the end of the season. BB really went out of his way to destroy all the momentum Dan Campbell had built up last year after his first two wins, and he really does try to provide the rest of the league blueprints for gameplans to attack deficiencies in the rest of the AFCE.
     
  12. dolfan7171

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    Gase has plenty of time to devise a plan for the remaining 9 games since we have a bye week. He can do so much that we haven't seen yet. Rumor is that there is a package being devised for Jakeem Grant. Plus other things like that. I have to believe this running game isn't the only the thing he has up his sleeve for this offense.
     
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  13. Pandarilla

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    Gase also snapped at Tannehill for that dumb scramble that killed the drive at the end of the half. Philbin was always said to "baby" Tannehill...Not Gase
     
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  15. Pauly

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    I also like that instead of calling the same type of runs he was early in the season he shifted the types of runs until he found something (the zone-stretch) that was effective. So different from the Philbin era where they kept running the same old plays in the same old manner and then blaming the players for a failure to execute.
     
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    I'm fully on the Gase bandwagon. He won me over early. We wont really see the Gase offense till next year. Depending on complexity it can take two to three seasons to fully implement a new offense. But from what I've seen so far I like it. It's flexible. It's not bound to run or pass. We might throw fifty times we might run forty times. All depends on what's working. He talks to the players and gets their feedback. He understands how important an offensive line is. He understood how idiotic the media is when they questioned tannehill and he put them I his place.

    I don't yet quite have a full grasp of the type of team gase will build but the guy gets it. He just understands football and what wins in football. Whether he can get that product on the field remains to be seen
     
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  17. Brasfin

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    Great point
     
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  18. Brasfin

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    It's not a rumor, Christensen said this in his press conference, though I wish he didn't. One (small) gripe I have with this coaching staff is that it seems they are way too open and honest with the media which may ruin some of the element of surprise for upcoming games.

    Then again, maybe they said it intentionally to get the Jets to prepare for it, then they come out with Jakeem and use him as a decoy again like they did in the Bills game.
     
  19. AGuyNamedAlex

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    It's really not uncommon for a WR to take 2-3-4 years to fully develop. I know we live in an age of instant gratification (not you personally just generally) but unless a guy is Megatron, Moss, or some other freak of nature I think it's okay to give him a few years. I just want to see improvement each season. That is my benchmark for WR.
     
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