Alright, thinking about this a bit, we really really need to win this game on Sunday, not "must" but "need" and here is why:
A) While we are 3-0 in the AFCE if we lose we fall three games back in the Win column, we could wind up with a better interdivisional record, but lose outright.
B) A win makes our margin for error much larger, 4-4 vs 3-5.
C) A loss means we fall back to 2 games under .500, again, that is a tough way to play football in the NFL, 3-5 at midseason and basically needing to go on another Epic Run to the playoffs.
We would have to beat the dogs on the schedule, and the mediocre teams and sweep the tougher non divisional, but still AFC games against the Texans and the Steelers.
"yes" we "could" go 7-1 in the last 8 games, but 4 of those teams are not pushovers, the Texans, Steelers, Patriots and Jaguars, and the Panthers just destroyed the Cardinals.
Of course, no one is giving us a ghost of a chance to win in Foxboro, we are ten pt dogs, but Sparano has to find a way to win this one.
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Padre,
I totally agree, this win will go along way moving forward with the rest of season. Beating the Pats put in a postion to contend for the divison and it might be needed because of how the wildcard race is shaping up. -
Imho the Texans will fold, they still have two games against the Colts.
But in the West, the Chargers have us by the short and curlies by virtue of beating us, if anything as we watch the Phins, we should also hope the Chargers fall apart while we win. -
I think all the rest of the games are both winnable and "need" wins.
I'm worried about the Pats winning the division (of course). They have 2 losses, we have 4. They're gonna lose @Indy, @New Orleans, and there's no way they sweep us. So that gives them 5 "most probable" losses. I don't see us sweeping the Pats, so I see us with 5 "most probable" losses.
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I agree with most everything written in this thread, but I'll take it a step further. If we want to have a legitimate and realistic shot at repeating as division champions, then we need to win on Sunday. Its a MUST win as far as our divisional title hopes are concerned.
And I'm not ready to give the Pats two losses to the Colts and Saints yet, either. The Saints are a good football team, but they're far from unbeatable (as we already proved). I could easily see the Pats winning that game on the road.
And anyone who is marking down that Carolina game as a win for the Dolphins is delusional. A road game off a very short week will not be easy, especially considering the rushing attack of Williams and Stewart that will be thrown our direction.
This team needs to find a way to win in Foxborough this Sunday.cnc66 and dolfan7171 like this. -
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I couldn't agree more.
That said, this Dolphins team is not making up 3 games on a Tom Brady-led Patriots team mid-way through the season. I don't care what each team's remaining schedules look like, its not happening. -
But things are much clearer if we find a way to win this game Sunday. -
At least the Panthers game is hot on the heels of playing Tampa at home. Could you imagine if it was directly after this week's Pats road game?
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Agreed.
And there's absolutely NO CHANCE the Jets are winning that rematch up in Foxborough. That game is going to be a beatdown of epic proportions. Revenge is going to be a ***** for the Gang Green.GARDENHEAD likes this. -
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Only as things played out back then, the Giants would end up 4-2 in the situation and win the NFCE.
A reach to be sure, but Ryan is a good DefCord, his Defense did stop us cold for most of the game, it is not that much of a reach to think they could do the same up in Foxboro.
And of course in that scenario, the Bills are the Cardinals of that era...:lol: -
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And don't think for a minute that Brady forgot about the "Brady S*cks" chants he heard at the Meadowlands. It was his 2nd game back and he was without Welker.
Its going to be ugly. -
This game is in the bag.
as long as the plane touches down in Boston/Foxboro...wherever...we are fine.
Confidence is VERY HIGH.
we are due to play a complete game. It is gonna be this week.
We win 31-24.cnc66 likes this. -
Belicheat won't be outcoached, but I don't think the Pats win the streetfight that game will become, their older, hardcore players are gone now.djphinfan likes this. -
They'll put up points in bunches on that Jets defense, you watch. -
But that is what makes the NFL great, one way or another, we will know how it turns out on the field. -
Padre, i agree he's a good D coordinator, but he stopped our run game by loading up the box, sending many many guys to blitz a young qb with a oline who hasn't been the best pass blocking team.
Try that against Brady he'll outlet a 5 yard slant to Welker that will go for 50+.
I don't think the Jets personnel on D could stop a firing on all cylinders pats throwing attack.
I know they did a great job against the pats in week 2, but that pats offense was not the same as it is now.
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Well when you start 0-3, almost every game thereafter is a must win.
There is a reason why 98% of teams that have started 0-3 don't make the playoffs. That 98% is not a number I made up out of thin air, that is a fact they showed on NFL Network when going through NFL history.late again likes this. -
A few things to remember.
The Patsies have had one of the easiest schedules for the first half
We have had one of the hardest through the first half.
Being 2 games back considering the schedules is actually very good IMHO
We sweep the Patsies and win the Division by 1 game :up: -
that game will come down to pressue on Brady ... if the JESTS get it - they have a legitimate shot at winning in Foxboro ... NEs line isn't that great this year
i think NEs record will be 11-5, but could easily be 10-6 ... between the JESTS, PHINS X2, NO, INDY (3 on the road) they'll lose 3 of those games ... in some combination, of course 1 of them HAS to be from us ... don't overlook HOU either ... barring injury, they will not fold ...
still believe ours will be 10-6 as well, with a better DIV record (5-1) ...
our whole season will be determined over the last 2 games against HOU & PIT ... 2 likely competing WC teams ... win and you're in type deal ... playoffs start @ Christmas
legitimate WC teams are: NE, HOU, PIT, BAL (CIN) ...
CIN has a favorable schedule the 2d half ... they 'should' win their DIV
PIT has only 3 'easy' games the 2d half ... 4 if you include GB
BAL has only 4 'easy' games the 2d half ... 5 if you include GB
HOU has only 4 'easy' games the 2d half ... however, they have already lost to JAX ...
the JESTS chances will come down to their last 3 games: ATL, INDY, CIN ... all legitimate playoff contenders ... they will lose at least 2 more games this year -- so they don't count if we finish 10-6 ...
SD could lose up to 5 more games, so not worried about them as a WC ...
as long as it works out as it 'should' meaning we split with NE, everything comes down to home games against HOU & PIT to close out the season ... with 10-6 getting it done -
In my humble opinion, EVERY game from here on out is a must win. We shouldnt't have to "settle" for losses.
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Has any team ever been a legitimate playoff contender with a losing record in their division? If so, the list is probably real short, and this year's version of the Jets sure as hell isn't a "special" group. -
You guys have yet to mention the one key factor that aids us against the Patsies.
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not only will we win but Brady will suffer an injury that will put him out of the game for the rest of the year
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Padre..Iam just gonna watch my team play football this week with no pressure...clemons into the starting lineup gives me that luxury...
I think the patriots defense is put together with tape, scrubs, and some old *** junior seau, trying to piece it all together....That team is definetly overrated, and i believe will have a hard time stopping our offense.
I believe we will get pressure on brady...were up to some new looks being implemented in our defense..Bell coming up the middle with pressure being one of them...pretty sure everyone saw that pretty play during the first 3 sreies of the jet game.....Those first 3 defensive series against the jets were executed beautifully...lets hope that continues..
I think while our youngsters are inexperienced, they are hella athletic and aggressive..and iam willing to throw them out there, and see what happens against the best qb in the game....no pressure from me, just go out and play, hit somebody, cover somebody, and have some fun...
3 rookie's starting in the secondary...lol....that...is....awesome...i love it.padre31 likes this. -
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For some strange reason, iam not scared of randy moss and wes for the first time.....i like our matchups...smith on moss, Davis on welker, and how that chris clemons speed dynamic flashes on the field {kid seems to have some instints as well}...not sure whats gonna happen, but i cant wait to see how they fare. -
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To even have a chance against the Pats we have to double team Moss, something the coaches couldn't figure out how to do last time we played them. The game plan should be to prevent the deep ball at all costs. Make the Patriots earn points by 8-10 play drives and hope for a few tipped passes, sacks, or drops on 3rd creating FGs and punts. As much as JT has hurt the Patriots, Moss has tripled that effect against us.
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I just want to see a hard hitting game. Every time a Patsy gets his hands on the football I want him to be totaled by one of our defensive players.
I think Chris Clemons is going to be a good player, and as I said before we might not have to draft a safety that high in the draft next year if our boy Clemons gets it done. Is it official that Clemons gets the start this week? Or is he just going to get more play time? -
Davis has been very good and has far exceeded my expectations. I'm not ready to say that I wouldn't have preferred Hakeem Nicks at that spot but I can't in any way say that it was a poor pick. I still don't see him displaying the decision making that makes him special in coverage, but he clearly shows the knack for for hitting that makes him special as a tackler. What has impressed me is that while he hasn't been 'special' in coverage he has been solid. He doesn't make nearly as many technique mistakes as he did in college. I think his focus has also improved from college. It's hard not to get excited when he makes a big hit. I'm hopeful that those hits will produce some of the turnover opportunities that our defense has been lacking this year. I also think that he is improving game to game. That leads me to believe that he is taking to the coaching. That is something I was concerned about coming in. I think that our secondary's future looks very bright with the additions of Smith, Davis and Clemons. -