http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=4863296
So we may know in the next couple weeks if Wilfork will be available or not. I'm sure we'll take a look, but how closely?
He'd be asking for a lot of money. Probably close to what Haynesworth asked for. I think that's too much, but it sure would be nice to be able to concentrate on LB in the draft
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I doubt Miami will sign him just because he seems like he is going to sign with whoever will give him the most money.
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Definitely think he'd be worth the money though given his ability and age - and I have a hard time seeing him asking for Haynesworth type money. Is a 3-4 NT really a 3-down type of player like Haynesworth?
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A couple of observations after reading this article.
1. Did the writer write this with a straight face:.."For Wilfork, the franchise tag -- which is a one-year deal -- also means a missed opportunity to gain long-term financial security for his family."...... I'm thinking the franchise tag includes around 7+ million dollars. In my own little world this amount of money would allow me that "long term financial security".
2. The Pats will not let him go for free. I just cannot see that happening, period.
Anyone trading for Wilfork is going to give up high draft picks and then still have to pay the guy a monopoly money contract.cdz12250, The Aqua Crush, gunn34 and 2 others like this. -
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give him 80 million next year for all i care. front load it while there's no cap. profitability is not one of my chief concerns regarding the phins.
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I don't want that overrated, Dolphins-hater, dirty-playing cheater on our team.
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Is Richard Seymour available now he spent the season with the Raiders he might enjoy meeting the Pats 2 times a year since they kicked him out the door.
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I get the feeling the guy just wants his money for a few years and then wants out. He doesnt seem to care who he gets his money from.
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If nothing else this is good for us. The Pats will not retain him next year.
If we can capitalize on it, all the better. But if they Franchise him, no one is going to buy into his high asking price and high cost of draft picks. Meaning he's likely going to miss his once in a lifetime opportunity of a uncapped year. That's some serious cause to be pissed off at the team that locked you up.
If they don't Franchise him, he's a UFA, he can do whatever he wants.
So the Pats have two choices. Royally screw over a player, who will likely resent them this entire year for it. Or cut him loose.
I'm pretty sure that they're going to franchise him, because lets face it, the NFL is a business. But if we have the opportunity, might as well see if we can spend money and save a draft pick.Themole likes this. -
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-Ferguson had a major knee injury and may retire
-Soliai doesn't cut it for a team that's trying to make the playoffs
-Tony McDaniel also won't cut it as a 3-4 NT
-Casey Hampton is up there in age and may also not be the best option
-The 2 top DTs in the draft will be gone before we pick
Here's the rest of the list of DT FAs
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2010&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=22 -
I'd rather they sign Justin Bannan and Ryan Pickett by far and away as well.
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I think Wilfork is worth grabbing (and overpaying) because he's a great player, and because he plays for a division rival. Taking him away from the Pats is is almost as sweet as having him in Miami. He can play the Nose, or either end spot. He can partner with Solai @ DT in a 4-3, allowing Starks/Taylor or Starks/Wake etc to play end. Cutting Porter and Wilson will save at 7 million or so without hurting the talent on the team, if that money can be sent to Wilfork or Dansby, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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I'm happy with Soliai as a backup, but not comfortable with him starting
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The team also had its best run defense days with Soliai the sole NT, vs. Jacksonville and Tennessee. Even without questionable linebacker play, holding MJD and Chris Johnson below 4.0 ypc is a big feat.
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The past 3 years, the combined number of Pressures, Hits, and sacks are:
Wilfork: 37
Picket: 18
Bannan: 22
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Bannan is a guy who could provide versatile depth at NT and DE. He'd probably cost 4m a year for a few years.
Wilfork would on the other hand cost 9-10m a year for six years I'd say. That's the reason Disgusty would rather have Bannan.
If you could sign a Justin Bannan, a Larry Foote, and trade for a Tony Scheffler you'd still be paying less than Wilfork. All of those three are capable of starting and playing very well. Also the two defensive players won't cost much more than those that they're replacing. -
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But, and maybe it's just the way I took his posts, they come off as if those players can produce at near the level of Wilfork, which is where I disagree. I think Wilfork is on another level than those guys. -
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Pickett's got 39 starts, so that's more comparable, but he hasn't had the reps the last three years. He had nearly 500 less reps in 2007 than Wilfork. Last year they were one rep apart. This year, one hundred less reps for Pickett.dolfan22, Disgustipate and Eop05 like this. -
Is he a late bloomer or is there a reason why he didn't see much action the first 4-5 years of his career?
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I don't think Disgustipate was saying that Bannan is at Wilfork's level. He said he would rather have Bannan than Wilfork because he's cheaper and can be more effective in this scheme, assuming it's still a one gap.Eop05 and The Aqua Crush like this. -
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I'll tell you one that thing you've alluded to in the past that's worth mentioning. Having a NT that could rush the passer is something that's often ignored. If you have a guy who demands a possible double-team in the pass rush it could be even more of a benefit that constantly searching through a field of OLBs that's sifted through by 14 other teams.
Upgrading the pass rush doesn't always come from just the outside. Pressure from the inside is so destructive to pocket QBs that it can cause absolute hell for them when they can't step up.
The guy I'm talking about that's a favorite of yours is Shaun Rogers.The Aqua Crush likes this. -
I'd pass on Wilfork. He's just looking to get paid, doesn't care who from. We would be as well as drafting Mount Cody, he'd be way cheaper and Wilfork will resemble him in a year or 2 anyway.
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Vince Wilfork: Playing in Florida would be 'a dream'
Here is some more on this.
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wilfork to Miami, Jason Taylor to New England. Would be a weird offseason for sure
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Vince Wilfork becoming a Dolphin is unrealistic
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...sweblog+(Miami+Dolphins+|+Sun-Sentinel+Blogs)
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