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Wonder Woman cast

Discussion in 'TV, Music and Movies' started by Miamian, Feb 17, 2011.

  1. Miamian

    Miamian Senior Member

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    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    I guess they could have done worse.
     
  4. ILPhinFan88

    ILPhinFan88 Premium Member Luxury Box

    NBC rejected it so no Wonder Woman
     
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  5. Miamian

    Miamian Senior Member

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    Yeah, and good thing too. The suit, the actress, the storyline, it was all wrong.
     
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    Hard to believe that David E. Kelly would be SO far off the mark with this one; the original script was so bad they had to rewrite, the actress was panned, the costume fiasco was embarrassing, and after all that, it was still so bad that NBC rejects it...nothing went right with this project.
     
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    Anyone else ever notice that, besides the Nolan/Burton Batman films, DC’s characters and source material never really translate to quality TV series or movies? Even DC games tend to suck. Superman 64, case closed.
     
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    It may be one of the few times that Hollywood actually listened to the fans and didn't let some producer say "to hell with the fans I'll do what I want."
     
  9. NaboCane

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    Depends a lot on perspective. If you're talking modern-era, maybe; then again, the first two Chris Reeve Superman films rank as real achievements in both state-of-the-art special effects and storytelling. The first Michael Keaton Batman film also ranks right up there, as do the Nolan takes, of course.

    But the Spider-Man films after the first one sucked in succession; the first two X-Men films were good, though; the third was just awful.

    Given perspective though, the DC/National Periodical heroes had a thirty-year head start before any of the Marvel heroes were even created, in the early-mid '60s. Batman and Superman film serials were made since the '30s and a Superman TV series was also made before the Marvel universe came into being.

    Notwithstanding the campy Batman of the '60s; which is now regarded as a masterpiece of retro camp, and which is largely offset by the awful Hulk series, I think the score is still in favor of DC/NP.
     
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    Oh, I'd put one between her eyes.

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  11. Desides

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    I’m not really a big fan of the Superman movies at all. And I already mentioned the Michael Keaton Batman.

    Agreed. Didn’t like the X-Men adaptation at all, didn’t bother to watch 2 and 3. Fantastic Four was fantastically awful, too. Still need to see Thor but I’ve heard great things. Iron Man is arguably better than the Nolan Batman films.
     
  12. NaboCane

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    I'm anxious to see Thor.

    I liked Iron Man, didn't see the second; liked it very much. But the Nolan Batmans stand, I think anyway, as the pinnacle achievement of superhero movies; the first Reeve Superman would rank 1-A after those.

    Four is another example of head-up-the-*** casting; an ensemble cast without one strong lead can work on television in a series format, but in film the lead character has to carry every scene he's in, period. Chicklis was brilliant as Thing, but the casting of Mr. Fantastic and The Human Torch was pathetic. And Jessica Alba, married to that walking haircut? Please.

    Plus, the stories were awful.

    I think also where a lot of these films are failing is in CGI characters; I think that's why the Hulk films invariably fail. You can have CGI villains or monsters, but no one can relate to—connect with—a CGI superhero. I mean, the concept of a superhero itself requires a substantial suspension of disbelief; making it CGI just puts it totally out of reach.
     
  13. rafael

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    I watched Thor yesterday and enjoyed it. I would rate it just behind the first Iron Man in terms of enjoyment. And I agree that the Nolan Batmans are the pinnacle of the super hero movies.
     
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    I found the second Batman movie - while quite enjoyable - to have some pretty gaping plot ridiculousness. Some people may argue that is the point of the Joker, but it was a bit over the top and unrealistic. First one was better imo.

    Ironman was good, have also never seen the second. Based on the trailers I thought Thor looked terrible, but after hearing good reviews I went with the wife and would rate it as good as Ironman.
     
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    I agree that the Nolan Batman series is the class of superhero movies.

    Maybe this a personal preference, but I believe that the actor should resemble the character. Besides looking nothing like Bruce Wayne facially, Michael Keaton never had the musculature fit for Batman. All in all, he pales next to Christian Bale.

    I liked Christopher Reeve, but I always found Donner's interpretation a little too goody-goody.

    And call me quixotic, but I'm hoping that the fan backlash with Wonder Woman leads the comics to restore her to the more traditional costume and origin story and that leads to live-action production.
     
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    I just think that no other treatment of the Batman character had ever captured every aspect of the legend; the darkness, the agony of his creation, the anguish of his existence, the underlying pathology...even the fact that his own actions have the effect of giving rise to supervillains like the Joker. Nolan simply totally captured everything in the Batman universe and managed to translate it masterfully whole to the big screen.

    But I feel 99% the same about Donner's (Reeve) Superman; in the GN The Dark Knight Returns, Batman refers derisively to Superman as "the boy scout." That's the essence of it—Superman is the light to Batman's darkness. That's why they paired together so well in the comics for so many years despite Batman being nowhere near a physical match for Superman.

    To me, Donner captured that perfectly and Reeve executed his vision perfectly. Only the supporting casts of the films and the declining storylines and writing doomed the series.
     
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    If they had a better costume, I'd watch it. but not about to shatter my Linda Carter childhood fantasies with this.
     
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    She actually appears in the more familiar leotard in the major fight scene, but the premise behind that costume is aargh! The top part still looks like vinyl.
     

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