Wow....How long do we have to go?

I just want this Brady era to be over....and there is no end in sight....

I'll rot for anyone as long as they kick NE out of the playoffs. I wish Ryan had a better team like Luck and Wilson do...but right now we would just embarrass ourselves out there in the wildcard round...

Hope Denver wins....I like Peyton way more than Brady, Wilson, Kaep or Newton.

13 years. Consistently inconsistent.

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Well it would help out if we could trip guys and not get penalties called, fumble then not really fumble, mystery pass int calls, etc. Always have to beat the Pats and the refs. Don't get me wrong, Brady is a great Qb and Belicheat is a great coach, they are hard enough to beat but when you get horrible game changing, momentum killing bad calls against you it makes it rough to even think about beating them in a playoff game.

Seems to me like, Unlike our coaching staff, the players are well prepared to play

Is this Bellicheck, He is not calling the plays and they have a relatively new OC in Josh McDanials

Could it be consistency in a system that works?

Kind of like plug and play

New England is second youngest team in the NFL

What is the difference??

Can we try and compare us to them

Patriots gameplan destroyed the Colts, take away 2-3 calls and the Patriots still win. Next week the playaction will be there big time.. I actually think the Chargers pose a bigger threat than the Broncos. Broncos defense is pretty bad...

"finfansince72 wrote:

Well it would help out if we could trip guys and not get penalties called, fumble then not really fumble, mystery pass int calls, etc. Always have to beat the Pats and the refs. Don't get me wrong, Brady is a great Qb and Belicheat is a great coach, they are hard enough to beat but when you get horrible game changing, momentum killing bad calls against you it makes it rough to even think about beating them in a playoff game.

Helps when there's a PI on any incompletion down the field. Holding perfectly permissible for the home team.

Gillette Stadium. Kraft has his own private refs when they play there.

"2socks wrote:

Seems to me like, Unlike our coaching staff, the players are well prepared to play

Is this Bellicheck, He is not calling the plays and they have a relatively new OC in Josh McDanials

Could it be consistency in a system that works?

Kind of like plug and play

New England is second youngest team in the NFL

What is the difference??

Can we try and compare us to them

What's the difference? Those team are more talented, and their rosters have been managed better. They also have elite quarterbacks. Ryan may get there, but he is not there yet.

Have patience. The Dolphins finally got rid of the main problem this team had in Jeff Ireland. Things are looking up, as we will now have better roster management and talent evaluation that will work in conjunction with the head coach, which Ireland wasn't willing to do. This means better scheme fits from a talent standpoint instead of the free agent spending spree we saw this past off season.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Patriots gameplan destroyed the Colts, take away 2-3 calls and the Patriots still win. Next week the playaction will be there big time.. I actually think the Chargers pose a bigger threat than the Broncos. Broncos defense is pretty bad...

Yeah but the Broncos will have the game at home although Brady and Belicheat seem to have Mannings number. If the Pats can run like they did against Indy no one is beating them. With that short passing game and power running game they can beat anyone. Its just a shame that we can't seem to get a clean game when the Pats play, always some nonsense with the refs.

"KB21 wrote:

What's the difference? Those team are more talented, and their rosters have been managed better. They also have elite quarterbacks. Ryan may get there, but he is not there yet.

Have patience. The Dolphins finally got rid of the main problem this team had in Jeff Ireland. Things are looking up, as we will now have better roster management and talent evaluation that will work in conjunction with the head coach, which Ireland wasn't willing to do. This means better scheme fits from a talent standpoint instead of the free agent spending spree we saw this past off season.

And who do you think asked for the spending spree to occur?

Do you believe Ross truly wants change? He was going to keep Ireland aboard.

I just don't see a new GM coming in and on short notice being able to turn the roster, if it is as bad as you say it is, into a roster that we can win with. Not when you have 8-10 weeks to prepare for the draft. Not when you have no clue who you currently have or the systems in place. it would take months and months of watching film to learn what needs to be revamped. So what ever draft occurs will probably be heavily influenced by Philbin and or Gaine. Not when now we are finding out we are locked to LB's like Ellerbe and Wheeler due to cap issues. But hey.....we can always blame Ireland next year and the year after and the year after

"2socks wrote:

And who do you think asked for the spending spree to occur?

Do you believe Ross truly wants change? He was going to keep Ireland aboard.

I just don't see a new GM coming in and on short notice being able to turn the roster, if it is as bad as you say it is, into a roster that we can win with. Not when you have 8-10 weeks to prepare for the draft. Not when you have no clue who you currently have or the systems in place. it would take months and months of watching film to learn what needs to be revamped. So what ever draft occurs will probably be heavily influenced by Philbin and or Gaine. Not when now we are finding out we are locked to LB's like Ellerbe and Wheeler due to cap issues. But hey.....we can always blame Ireland next year and the year after and the year after

So who's job is it to develop Tannehill....let me guess Ireland?

Weird

We are young and inexperienced at key positions including QB. We need to give our QB an OL and some players around him that can help the offense. He also needs to get better and make more plays. We left a lot of TD's on the field. Once him and Wallace get on the same page, that could be an extra win or two.

I feel we are close and have a much better chance at getting there with a new GM.

"Tannehill wrote:

I just want this Brady era to be over....and there is no end in sight....

I'll rot for anyone as long as they kick NE out of the playoffs. I wish Ryan had a better team like Luck and Wilson do...but right now we would just embarrass ourselves out there in the wildcard round...

Hope Denver wins....I like Peyton way more than Brady, Wilson, Kaep or Newton.

How exactly do you figure Luck has more talent in Indy than Ryan does in Miami? Better OL, better RB and that's about it.

"finfansince72 wrote:

Well it would help out if we could trip guys and not get penalties called, fumble then not really fumble, mystery pass int calls, etc. Always have to beat the Pats and the refs. Don't get me wrong, Brady is a great Qb and Belicheat is a great coach, they are hard enough to beat but when you get horrible game changing, momentum killing bad calls against you it makes it rough to even think about beating them in a playoff game.

I was waiting on them to rule that safety a batted ball by the Colts player, meaning a 15 yard penalty on NE and an automatic first down. as it was, ruling it a safety was incredibly fortunate. Colts should have been setup on the 2 yard line had the ball not been batted inadvertently into the endzone.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

How exactly do you figure Luck has more talent in Indy than Ryan does in Miami? Better OL, better RB and that's about it.

The only positions left are WR and TE.

WR is at best for us a draw when all are healthy. Maybe we get TE. Maybe.

No one is calling Luck out for 7 INTs in 2 playoff games... he plays better and they beat the Pats. He spotted them a TD to start the game with an INT.

If Tannehill had played that badly, Fin fans would be setting themselves on fire.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

How exactly do you figure Luck has more talent in Indy than Ryan does in Miami? Better OL, better RB and that's about it.

Those matter. lol... Keeping your QB upright and not forcing him to carry the team solely by himself matters.

I also like TY Hilton better than most of our receivers. We have a good receiving corp, but non of them are consistently win matchups. We need to continue to upgrade this group along with the OLine.

"2socks wrote:

And who do you think asked for the spending spree to occur?

Do you believe Ross truly wants change? He was going to keep Ireland aboard.

I just don't see a new GM coming in and on short notice being able to turn the roster, if it is as bad as you say it is, into a roster that we can win with. Not when you have 8-10 weeks to prepare for the draft. Not when you have no clue who you currently have or the systems in place. it would take months and months of watching film to learn what needs to be revamped. So what ever draft occurs will probably be heavily influenced by Philbin and or Gaine. Not when now we are finding out we are locked to LB's like Ellerbe and Wheeler due to cap issues. But hey.....we can always blame Ireland next year and the year after and the year after

Yes. Ireland can be blamed for the cap issues this team has going forward. He is after all the person that signed off on those deals. Remember, Joe Philbin has no say in who i son the final 53 man roster. That is all the GM, so any mistakes made are on the GM, not the head coach.

Also, I highly doubt those decisions to spend big in free agency were Joe's decision. He does come from Green Bay's philosophy and said at his first press conference that his vision for the team is one that is built largely through the draft. Jeff went for the quick fix this off season instead of being patient and building through the draft, and previous poor drafts that were run by him created the need to spend big in free agency.

Hey, but you can continue to blame the coaching for this team's ills. Ireland has been through two coaches, and apparently, neither are good enough for you. The fact is, this team has had talent evaluation issues for the past 13 years, and that has hampered this team more than any coaching issues. The thing that you want to forget is that coaching has very little impact overall when it comes to winning. Winning is largely dictated by luck and skill. There are advanced studies that have been done on coaching effect if you would care to read them. I have posted them before. Essentially, the gist is this. If Miami's coaching was as bad as you continue to say, there is no way this team wins 8 games.

"Alex44 wrote:

The only positions left are WR and TE.

WR is at best for us a draw when all are healthy. Maybe we get TE. Maybe.

WR is far from a draw.

"cuchulainn wrote:

Those matter. lol... Keeping your QB upright and not forcing him to carry the team solely by himself matters.

I also like TY Hilton better than most of our receivers. We have a good receiving corp, but non of them are consistently win matchups. We need to continue to upgrade this group along with the OLine.

They do but Luck is consistently pressured aswell, he just does more against the rush than Ryan does wich is insane given the background of Tanny.

In my opinion this is how the WRs rank.

Wallace
Hilton
Hartline
Mathews
Brazil/Rodgers

Defensively you could say Miami has more talent at every level save LB.

Either way you put Luck in Miami right now and I 100% believe we are in the playoffs this year.

I think this is a totally different team with even an average NFL offensive line and a decent running back to go with Lamar Miller.

its coaching. we wont be on the pats level until we find coaching. philbin sure as hell isnt the guy. talent wasnt the problem this season. new england's roster, nor the colts' roster is more talented than ours. their coaching is better. simple as that. every team has weaknesses, coaching overcomes those.

"Tannehill wrote:

I just want this Brady era to be over....and there is no end in sight....

I'll rot for anyone as long as they kick NE out of the playoffs. I wish Ryan had a better team like Luck and Wilson do...but right now we would just embarrass ourselves out there in the wildcard round...

Hope Denver wins....I like Peyton way more than Brady, Wilson, Kaep or Newton.

Ryan does have a better team than the colts because the colts suck.They have a terrible defence and no running game and average wrs.Luck is the reason they made the playoffs two years in a row.
I will give you Wilson because he is on the best team in football.

"KB21 wrote:

Yes. Ireland can be blamed for the cap issues this team has going forward. He is after all the person that signed off on those deals. Remember, Joe Philbin has no say in who i son the final 53 man roster. That is all the GM, so any mistakes made are on the GM, not the head coach.

Also, I highly doubt those decisions to spend big in free agency were Joe's decision. He does come from Green Bay's philosophy and said at his first press conference that his vision for the team is one that is built largely through the draft. Jeff went for the quick fix this off season instead of being patient and building through the draft, and previous poor drafts that were run by him created the need to spend big in free agency.

Hey, but you can continue to blame the coaching for this team's ills. Ireland has been through two coaches, and apparently, neither are good enough for you. The fact is, this team has had talent evaluation issues for the past 13 years, and that has hampered this team more than any coaching issues. The thing that you want to forget is that coaching has very little impact overall when it comes to winning. Winning is largely dictated by luck and skill. There are advanced studies that have been done on coaching effect if you would care to read them. I have posted them before. Essentially, the gist is this. If Miami's coaching was as bad as you continue to say, there is no way this team wins 8 games.

See that's where you are wrong my friend.

I have consistently said "all or none". Everyone has blame. But some folks want to ignore Philbin's blame like the last 2 games didn't occur.

You guys blame Ireland...he is your escape goat I get it. It's total bull**** and short sighted but I get it.

I got hell on this sight because I liked Sparano and I supported him.

He had heart and I was pissed he didn't get a fair shot.

Tony Sparano never got time to have a few drafts and off season's out from under the thumb of Parcells to put together a team.

Most of the people here talk about how it takes time to build a team and it doesn't happen over night

yet when things go wrong most are not willing to be patient and give people time to make adjustments and improve the team

We went backwards hired Philbin and here we are again

Philbin with Ireland have had exactly 1 season to try to put together a roster that fits what Philbin is running.

1rst season was carry over from Sparano

Now we can sit here all day long and argue back and forth about who is to blame for what but 3 facts remain:

They had one season to try and but something together

It is not Ireland's job to develop the players

The coaches **** the bed in the last 2 games which is the reason we did not make the playoffs

Now we have a owner who is trying to appease everyone including the fans who screamed for Ireland's head

But one thing will always remain true and that is if we continue down this road of not being patient and allowing things to develop this team will never get better.

We will always be the same old Miami Dolphins

"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:

its coaching. we wont be on the pats level until we find coaching. philbin sure as hell isnt the guy. talent wasnt the problem this season. new england's roster, nor the colts' roster is more talented than ours. their coaching is better. simple as that. every team has weaknesses, coaching overcomes those.

Thank you. Thank you. thank you.

I have said all go or none stay. Why? Because now our HC is Now handicapped trying to get players from "new" people who don't know this roster from a hole in their ass. It is a set back and it hurts our chances at success.

Now shoot me if I am wrong but it looks to me like we have enough challenges in the coaching area based on the last 2 games and other games during the season with out adding a new GM and New OC to the mix.

Chances are very very high We WILL NOT be a better team next year

"2socks wrote:

See that's where you are wrong my friend.

I have consistently said "all or none". Everyone has blame. But some folks want to ignore Philbin's blame like the last 2 games didn't occur.

You guys blame Ireland...he is your escape goat I get it. It's total bull**** and short sighted but I get it.

I got hell on this sight because I liked Sparano and I supported him.

He had heart and I was pissed he didn't get a fair shot.

Tony Sparano never got time to have a few drafts and off season's out from under the thumb of Parcells to put together a team.

Most of the people here talk about how it takes time to build a team and it doesn't happen over night

yet when things go wrong most are not willing to be patient and give people time to make adjustments and improve the team

We went backwards hired Philbin and here we are again

Philbin with Ireland have had exactly 1 season to try to put together a roster that fits what Philbin is running.

1rst season was carry over from Sparano

Now we can sit here all day long and argue back and forth about who is to blame for what but 3 facts remain:

They had one season to try and but something together

It is not Ireland's job to develop the players

The coaches **** the bed in the last 2 games which is the reason we did not make the playoffs

Now we have a owner who is trying to appease everyone including the fans who screamed for Ireland's head

But one thing will always remain true and that is if we continue down this road of not being patient and allowing things to develop this team will never get better.

We will always be the same old Miami Dolphins

Well, you supported Sparano, 'nuff said. As to Ireland, his draft record is sketchy and what he did to the OL and LB crews is an abomination, that alone should have gotten him canned. Not to mention the failed Dallas Cowboy OL reclamation project, which was pathetic. Canned, demoted, whatever. He was shown the door and patted on his rear on the way out. Jeffrey- buh-bye.