The problem with that is if it is so hard to draft wide receivers then the cost of acquiring one that actually turned out well will be exorbitant.

 

Wide receivers have the highest bust rate of any positon, particularly when taken in the first round. This is a very overrated position in terms of importance to the overall performance of your offense.

 

If anyone knows this it's us we've seen it first hand with Ted Ginn and to a lesser degree with just about any receiver we've drafted in the last 10 years or so. It's why I think it makes no sense to draft a receiver in the first round this year when Marshall is there for the taking and already a proven elite receiver in the NFL.

 

Dez Bryant won't be a bust

I could have told you that Ted Ginn would be a bust...his only upside was his kick returns, I was never impressed with his recieving skills in college

 

My opinion is that opinions are over-rated. :up:

 

Ginn will beat the curve! He'll be in the league more than 5 years, chalkin it up as a success. :lol:

 

I not only couldve told people about Ginn, I DID tell people. They just didn't listen.

 

LOL your probably right, the worst part is he'll probably be a Dolphin for all 5 of them :tantrum:

 

Congragulations.

Anyway, if we pass on Dez, expect Henne to regress and this entire offense to regress.

 

I still don't think it's over for Ginn. He's NEVER had issues with his hands in the past, and he really showed great improvement in other areas. He gets another year from me. If he doesn't do more this season, that is when I probably give up on him. Or rather don't count on him.

Also theres no point. I told everyone about Matt Leinart but hey, you win some you lose some. I think everyone can point out a few guys they pegged correctly.

 

Why would I expect that? Why would he regress? That does not make any sense.

 

Alright serious question...maybe I misunderstood the quoted part of the article.

How can you say from 1990-2009 (19/20 years). Then say in those years 677 receivers have been drafted. Then you say of those 677, 32% have made it five years.

If those 677 truely occured over 20 years, no-one drafted after 2004 COULD have played 5 years. Doesn't that skew the %?

 

Ok not regress, but don't expect him to take the next step.

 

That's the best part :wink2:

 

I'll admit I only read the posted blurb. I'll have to read it all now :lol:

 

Exactly, it's down right foolish to invest in a WR....

Just ask the Steelers......who in 2006 gave up a 3rd and a 4th to move up 6 spots to take Santonio Holmes at #25.

I mean, what were they trying to do, win a Super Bowl or something?

 

We have a very good O line, a dynamic, well respected running game and a young gunslinger QB..... we're as ready for one as a team could get.

Don't mistake a failed experiment with using two SS's in the backfield as needing to over haul the whole unit.

 

And the definition of insanity is ????????????

 

Don't forget about the linebacking corps. Beside Dansby we have nothing except Wake who is still a project.
That part of the defense deserves some heavy attention

 

Crowder will be an upgrade over Adoyele...one problem solved

JT will be re-signed to at least add depth as a pass rush specialist....two problems down

The we can take an OLB somewhere in rounds 2-4......and add one or two more next year

See how easy that was?

 

that doesn't solve anything
Crowder is what he is... average
jt no longer is a difference maker
you will see the FO address LB whether you like it or not
if only it were that easy we would all be happy
in reality what you penciled in looks pretty weak really

 

so if we dont take dez chad henne won't continue to develop as an nfl qb?
That is pure speculation
comical
dont invent scare tactics to try and prove your point on bryant

 

You dont need two absolute star ILB to play the 3-4 defense. Crowder had a really bad season, but if he plays like the year before I'd say he's slightly above average. Not great...but IMO he's a very very good #2 ILB.

 

any faith i might have ever had in channing is gone
all i hear is he is young he will get better. he can do this and that
i dont see it with crowder. he has on structure, awareness or discipline.
the guy just blindly runs around out there
the D will be much better when we get a solid replacement for him

 

Taking chances on a guy with speed that lacks anything else is what has been killing teams - not WR as a whole. Look at the busts recently. Troy Williamson, Matt Jones, Ted Ginn, possibly DHB. These are the kinds of receivers that bust out more often than not.

But take a look at some who didnt. Roddy White, Santonio Holmes, Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Robert Meachum, Anthony Gonzales, Michael Crabtree, Jeremy Maclin, Percy Harvin, Hakeem Nicks, Kenny Britt. Any one of these guys would likely be starting for us right now.

Look at the top wideouts in the league and most were first rounders. Fitzgerald, both Andre and Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, Reggie Wayne.

People overblow this whole X position is the bust position way to much. Do you have flameouts? Yes, of course you do. At every position. The player is the one that matters.

 

I think the ReceivingCorp is much stronger
potentially this year than last
also think Brian Hartline will step up
to be our home-grown PlayMaker & #1Wr
personally, I think we are looking for a TE
& a FreeSafety in this years draft
then a NT & more beef @ DE & SLB

 

Oh, I guarantee you that if Miami drafts Dez Bryant, their starting linebackers will be Wake and Moses. That sounds great, doesn't it!! There aren't any other OLBs that can come in and start as rookies once you get passed the ones we could draft in the first round.

With Channing Crowder still starting, we don't improve our consistency in defending the run.

Let's not forget about the major drop off in run defense we had when Soliai stepped in for Jason Ferguson. You guessed it. If Miami drafts Dez Bryant, Paul Soliai is starting at nose tackle for Miami.

I wonder what people are going to say if Miami drafts Dez Bryant and they miss the playoffs next year because their defense is so horrible? Not only that, but you have possibly 3 ELITE WR prospects who are all much better prospects than Dez Bryant that will likely be in the 2011 draft in Julio Jones, AJ Green, and Jonathan Baldwin. But let's waste a pick this year on Dez Bryant.

 

In all seriousness.

Who DO you like in this draft that will be there at #12

 

Ok, let me break it down.

Last season, Henne had a bad WR corps. His numbers were pretty average. 12 Tds to 14 picks with a 75.2 QB rating. Now, if you don't upgrade the receivers we have, he won't get much better. Because our WR unit isn't very good.

Understand?

 

1. Rolando McClain
2. Derrick Morgan
3. Jerry Hughes
4. Brandon Graham
5. Jared Odrick

 

So you're of the opinion that it's very important to have two star ILB in the 3-4?

 

Actually, let me break it down for you.

Last year, Chad Henne was in his first season as a starter after Chad Pennington went down. He made rookie mistakes and didn't throw the ball very well down the field despite his arm strength.

Brian Hartline was a rookie wide receiver who was among the top 5 rookies at the position in yards per reception.

Davone Bess is a second year wide receiver who is better at this point than every wide receiver was was drafted in 2008.

There is no reason why those two guys cannot get better as Henne continues to grow as a quarterback.

 

I'm of the opinion that when you are as bad as Miami is defensively, you take the best defender that is available to you.

So, no. I have no problem with Miami having the best ILB duo in the NFL.

 

so it will be impossible for henne to improve from what was basically a rookie outing if he doesnt get dez bryant?
that is ludicrous

 

Fair enough. However I don't think having the best ILB duo in the league is as big of an advantage as you do. It's a limited impact position IMO.

 

I'm not a guru or watch game tapes of college kids like most do, but I do know we need these before WR

1. OLB
2. Safety
3. ILB

Heck I might even put nickleback in before WR

Do I think we could us a true #1? Yes, but not before we fix our defense. Our offense scored enough to win games, the defense just didn't hold up its end.