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Eh, Vern C is back, not sure if that is a good thing, JT being down...not sure about it, he looked fine in the Texans game, wonder if he was knicked in the browns game?
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I hope Jason Taylor sits out this week. I'd like to see if Koa Misi could get more pressure if given the opportunities.
People joke about Koa Misi being "Koa Missing" but the simple fact of the matter is theyr'e not letting him rush the passer. Hard to get sacks, hits or pressures when you're in coverage or only on the field for run plays.
Meanwhile Jake Long will have the pleasure of going up this week on passing downs against the player Miami should have signed rather than Taylor. Antwan Barnes has 2 sacks, 1 hit and 2 pressures on only 30 pass rush snaps. That's Cameron Wake type pass rush production, except he does it from over left tackle instead of over right tackle. -
As for JT, I thought it he did fine in the Texans game, nothing in the Browns game, which suggests to me he is dinged, at his age I'm not sure if he should play unless he is 100% as his talent has come back down to earth to the point that 80% JT may not be better then a Ike Francis/Koa Misi combination. -
BTW, usually not a good thing when "VD" returns... however, this time is an exception, right guys?
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It's ironic that I've been talking about how the Patriots game was kind of fluke-ish and for the last two games the defense has indeed played pretty well, when the defense is about to be torn apart by Phil Rivers and Vincent Jackson.
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JT has 4 tackles and 1 sack, Barnes has 3 tackles 2 sacks and a FF, not sure about pressures, so atm Barnes does have the advantage but not an overwhelming one. -
'Bout time Davis got his out of shape behind back on the field.
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Jason Taylor has played like 250% more snaps than Antwan Barnes this year...and has less production. When the Chargers put Barnes on the field to rush the passer, they get to be fairly confident that he's going to do an effective job at it. When the Dolphins do the same with Jason Taylor, he's not. Bottom line.
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You have access to PFF, what is the actual differences in pressures? Otherwise Barnes is 1 sack and 1 FF up on JT. -
I already stated Barnes' stats. 2 sacks, 1 hit and 2 pressures on 30 snaps. You can add the FF in there I guess.
Jason Taylor 1 sack, 3 hits and 3 pressures on 70 snaps, and you can add in the defensive off sides penalty that was accepted.
The Dolphins are putting Taylor on the field a lot more than the Chargers are putting Barnes, but it's not because Jason has some great array of responsibilities. About 75% of JT's plays have been pass plays, which is almost identical to Antwan Barnes (77%). He rushes the passer 23 times for every 1 time he drops into coverage, which is actually more one-dimensional than Antwan Barnes who rushes the passer 10 times for every 1 time he drops into coverage.DePhinistr8 likes this. -
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But Pads..back in 09 when everyone in the world could see that Wake was more effective than JT and JP combined, we used the very same snap/situational stats that CK is using to back up his claim. Fact is that Barnes is more effective with fewer opportunities.
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Which means the most apples to apples comparison is simple production.
Now if the argument is who will the more productive player 2 yrs from now, or even next yr, that is a different proposition and one that Barnes would and should win as he is much younger, but potential is different from production. -
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We don't have Jason Taylor out there defending the run. Koa Misi is out there on those downs. Jason Taylor and Antwan Barnes do the same job. Antwan Barnes just does it better. -
The Chargers just placed Strong Safety Bob Sanders on Injured Reserve...
...the Dolphins have suddenly and mysteriously excused Strong Safety Yeremiah Bell from practice today for 'personal reasons'...
...the Dolphins and Chargers have a history of trading with one another...
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They can't pull him off the IR can they? Or perhaps they can if they're another team, I don't know.
By the way I hand't considered this but with the return of Clemons they may decide to put him back at FS and put Jones at SS. -
Whoa, what?
No. I'm not saying the Dolphins are trying to trade for Bob Sanders. I'm suggesting that the Dolphins and Chargers may be in negotiations with one another over Yeremiah Bell and this could perhaps be why Bell is not practicing. With Sanders going on IR, the Chargers have a need there. They had Steve Gregory replace Sanders against the Chiefs and he's not very good.
The Dolphins are 0-3. They are 3 games behind the Bills and 2 games behind the Pats and Jets. Playoffs are not an option anymore and they know it. Time to start seeing what some of the young ones have. Everyone keeps talking about how Reshad Jones would make a better strong safety than free safety. With Chris Clemons looking like he's returning to health, perhaps it's time to find that out. Yeremiah Bell didn't do himself any favors. He was basically the guy that aired Jason Taylor's locker room speech to the media. Other players confirmed it but they may have taken their cues from Yeremiah and thought it was OK. He's supposed to be a leader and yet there he was this weekend getting a Roughing the Passer penalty late in the 3rd quarter. -
I can certainly see what you mean. Slide Jones to SS (where he should be anyway) and give Clemons back the FS...move out YB and get something..anything for him. -
Anyone know who we cut in order to make room for Steve Slaton?
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I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps it's after this week's game that they'll make the move. I would have been surprised had you made that kind of error.
It would make some sense for perhaps a fifth round pick or so and the Dolphins did like that other safety they cut a while back. What do you think of Reshad Jones at SS. He's the prototype on paper. Blitzing skills, tackling, makes plays, a good man coverage safety that has some height to take down a TE with that vertical leap. -
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Did Taylor get hurt in the Cleveland game? I'm pretty sure his stat line was all zeros.
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The week before he looked good vs the Texans, 1 sack and a couple of pressures. -
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JT supposedly had a day of rest, which is not something I recall him doing previously, Sparano maybe lighting a fire under JT? -
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I'd be okay with trading YB, but really, what could we get???? Maybe a 6th?
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