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Yet another Denver 4th Qtr win

Discussion in 'Other NFL' started by padre31, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    There have been far too many important drops during this winning streak . Ever since Brandon Lloyd was traded the receiver core has looked unimpressive .

    No one can logically explain this winning streak unless you believe in divine intervention.:wink2:
     
  2. MikeHoncho

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    ...or coordinators rigging* games.


    *if you believe in that stuff
     
  3. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    How do you "rig" a 51 and 59 yard field goal???? :confused2:
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think we as Dolphins fans OWE Tim Tebow BIGTIME...Here's why.

    If it not for him, The denver Broncos are serious competition for one of our QB'S..

    Thanks Timmy..I'll root for ya hard buddy..
     
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  5. MikeHoncho

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    ...cgi
     
  6. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    You implied in your post that Tebow had played poorly in those first three quarters and that the only reason they won is b/c Chicago had changed their defense. An honest assessment by someone who had watched the game would have have acknowledged that the real change was that the WRs played better at the end of the game.
     
  7. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    No, the real reason they won was because Barber had two huge **** ups. And I don't think he actually caught that pass in OT.

    Chicago changing their defense did not help their cause though, same as what we did when we played Denver.
     
  8. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Denver looked like the better team throughout the game. They were only trailing b/c they kept screwing up. Most of the screw ups in those first three quarters were dropped passes and the missed FG. Tebow really didn't play poorly during that time. He did step up his game a bit at the end as he always does, but the bigger turnaround was the receivers and the big kicks by Prater. The screw ups by Barber gave them the chance and people will point at that b/c they came at the end, but Denver made more mistakes early on that people are forgetting.
     
  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Some folks just can't believe there is such a man that can elevate the play of the entire team and properly put that into context.

    There is and he can.

    There are players on that team that believe the words coming out of his mouth...Translation...I will play til every once of fu^%ing energy has left my body...
     
  10. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Here's an article on Tebow that talks about how hard he works:

    And yet inside the Broncos’ complex, conversations about Tebow go on for half an hour without a mention of God or religion or their most famous player’s spirituality. The talk is instead about a man who is driven, who arrives early in the morning and leaves long after most of his teammates have departed. In college Tebow was famous for declarations of hard work but that seemed more about lifting weights and running sprints. Now that he is in the NFL, his diligence is in improving his throwing and studying opponents. The phrase most often attributed to him is not about God but rather, “Tell me how I can get better.”

    Want a reason the Broncos are in first place in the AFC West with what amounts to a two-game lead over the Oakland Raiders? It is Tebow’s obsessive preparation.

    The hour doesn’t matter. It could be 9 p.m., maybe 10, but at some point every night the phone of Broncos quarterbacks coach Adam Gase will ring and Tim Tebow will be on the line.

    “I’ve been watching film,” Tebow will say. Then a string of questions: What happens if a defensive player moves a certain way? How should he go? And what about the receivers? Are there other options?

    Quietly, Tebow has dazzled the Broncos coaches with his deep understanding of complex offenses. When he showed up to the team’s suite for his interview with the staff at last year’s combine, he immediately rattled off the principles of his offense at Florida. But then he launched into Norv Turner’s digit system as well as the Patriots’ offense, which the Broncos were also using. The coaches were stunned. How had he learned all this?


    And so this year it is Gase, who coached receivers last season, spending hours with Tebow on the practice field working on how he steps back from center – something he rarely did at Florida – and throws the ball. For 30 minutes before every practice and 30 minutes afterward, they work on gliding back and stepping forward.

    “Everything has to do with his feet,” Gase said. “Before, his body was going in one direction and his arm was going in another direction. As we get him more balanced, his throws become smoother and more accurate.”

    [ Related: Citizens in town of Tim Tebow’s birth clueless about QB’s stardom ]

    What they couldn’t have understood before they drafted him was how much he would practice this. “He’s taken thousands of [extra] reps,” Gase said. When practice turns to defensive drills and the other offensive players rest, Tebow grabs a ball and begins working on his backpedaling, repeating each new technique until it starts to feel natural.

    “He’s improved a lot the last few weeks,” Gase said, pointing to throws Tebow made in the Broncos’ last two wins he probably couldn’t have made only a few weeks earlier when the Broncos were merely running an option attack with few passes.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-carpenter_tim_tebow_alex_smith_draft_broncos_121411

    I said before his draft that Tebow was a guy you shouldn't bet against. I had questions about him, but they weren't related to his arm mechanics. IMO that was a red herring that everybody latched on to. The main thing that matters on the release is the speed. Somebody at UF actually studied the speed of that release and found that it was in the average range compared to NFL QBs. It was slower at the bottom, but faster at the top.The net effect was that it was average. All those people comparing it to Leftwich didn't know what they were talking about. But that's always the case when a something looks different. I remember Marino's mechanics being criticized before his draft as well. My questions were about his footwork. IMO that is what effects accuracy most. And running QBs tend to have a wider stance that makes it tough throw with your feet underneath you and lined up. Also QBs who worked primarily out of the shotgun struggle with being under center. They have to think about the footwork during the drop and it slows down their ability to read the defense. Usually the result is that their reads are slow. They don't seem to see the field or rather process it fast enough. I predicted it would take Tebow three years. I think he's ahead of schedule despite having missed a training camp due to the lockout. He's not there yet, but assuming a full training camp before next season, I expect that we'll see a jump in his passing ability. Even more if they can find him a TE and a Percy Harvin type. And I'm not even counting Denver out this season. My head would pick the Pats this week and probably Pitt in the playoffs over Denver, but my gut says, "don't bet against Tebow".
     
  11. padre31

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    Broncos won the AFCW w/Tebow winning 8 games as the starter.

    Defenses have adjusted to him by absolutely staying in their rush lanes
     
  12. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    They draw Pittsburgh next weekend. Ouch.
     
  13. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Why would they have to adjust? Defenses haven't had problems stopping him all year.
     
  14. Could be an interesting matchup, if Mendenhall is out they could be in trouble.
     
  15. alen1

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    Mendenhall tore his ACL.
     
  16. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    lol of course he did.
     

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