Yo I love Ebron....but Colt Lyerla might be the best TE in this class

He's the biggest off the field problem in this entire class. No way, no how!

This guy doesn't even belong in the league.

A late round take a chance guy would be A.C.Leonard Tennessee St.

Off-field stuff aside, I don't think Lyerla is as good a prospect as Hernandez was, though he's certainly a very good athlete. But that's beside the point, isn't it... The question to me is whether or not he'll commit himself to chasing the NFL-millions-sized carrot that's going to be dangling in front of him. Maybe that will help set him straight. Maybe Aaron being in prison will help his outlook, see some consequences, stuff like that. I don't know. I imagine it'll all come down to the interviews/talks teams have had with him and his coaches or teammates. Some bold, stable coaching staff will give him a go I think, maybe in the late 4th-5th round range. But I don't see the Dolphins touching him.

"ssmiami wrote:

A late round take a chance guy would be A.C.Leonard Tennessee St.

Guy is athletic in the extreme and really does move like a GOOD wide receiver. I think he's a homerun as a mid to late pick.

CK's Draft Board: TE A.C. Leonard wrote:

Short (6'2") but good frame, lengthy arms, thick body, 250 lbs. Athleticism LEAPS off screen. Incredible speed. Shows quickness & hands off LOS. Concentration lapses. Needs to keep football tighter. Pesky blocker. Cares about it, but is more will than polish. A count the steps route runner, but so explosive & athletic. Flashes tremendously w/ ball in hand. Breaks tons of tackles. Looks like a RAC WR. Out routes look crisp, easily creates separation. Hands catcher. Snatches the football. Locates football well. A 5-speed tight end. Off field issues, left Florida due to domestic violence incident.

If you want a guy with a checkered past that will go low because of it...I trust A.C. Leonard a hell of a lot more than Coke Lyerla. I've had some reasonable assurances from people that Leonard's problems were not as terrible as some think and that he's really put it all behind him.

I'm with ya LB, if it's just based on football, there isn't a tight end in this class that I would take over Colt..just based on football he's one of my five favorite players in the draft..

Unfortunately, were not privy to his physche evals...but if I'm a GM, the talent is so good, he's worth doing one. To see if there has been some monumental revelations..

blake annen out of cincy.
6'4, 247, 4.42 speed, 34" vert, 25 bench reps.
this guy was the most misused player in college last year. cincy wasted all his athleticism by making him into a blocking tight end. so, what we have here is an athletic freak who is a superior run blocker as well. take him in the 5th round.

Given that Lyerla is likely going to be devalued in the draft because of his problems, the positive is that he wouldn't be making $millions - not for at least 4 years+. I'd take him in the 3-4 round range which is where he may go - or he may wind up in the 5th or 6th just b/c NFL teams may be getting scared of troubled players given the Hernandez situation.

Why would anyone consider it after what we just went through with Cogs and this guy is worse. If you think Bullygate was a bad scandal for us, imagine what the press would do if we went through our own AHern......

"byroan wrote:

This guy doesn't even belong in the league.

What did he do?

Edit: nvm. I googled him. Pass.

What'd he do?

"unluckyluciano wrote:

What'd he do?

Cocaine.

A lot of it.

Here's more on my boy A.C. Leonard.

He was named the FCS National Tight End of the Year by the College Football Performance Awards
http://www.tsutigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=19600&ATCLID=205835921

Leonard, in his first season with TSU after transferring from Florida, was the tight end selection after catching 51 passes for 733 yards and six touchdowns in 10 games. The 733 yards were the most by a tight end at the FCS level this year and was the fourth most throughout all four divisions of college football (FBS, FCS, D-II and D-III). He led all HBCU tight ends in receptions, yards, yards per reception (14.4) and touchdowns.

In 2013 he followed up with 441 yards and 5 TDs on 34 catches, plus a 31 yard run.

Combine Performance:
Height: 6023
Weight: 252 lbs
1st 40 Unofficial: 4.56
2nd 40 Unofficial: 4.43
Official 40 Time: 4.50
Bench Press: 20 reps
Vertical: 34"
Broad Jump: 10'8"
Shuttle: 4.40 (pro day)
Cone: 7.14 (pro day)
Arm Length: 33"
Hand Size: 9.25"

Some highlights:

2013: Film vs. Bethune-Cookman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvbNJ6yt1Fs&feature=player_embedded

2013: Film vs. Tennessee Tech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvbNJ6yt1Fs&feature=player_embedded

2012: Tennessee State Football Highlights (A.C. Leonard jersey #1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHi82PDGDe8
(Individual Clips Below)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=109
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=171
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=292
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=306
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=420
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=432
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=475
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=654
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=736
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=759
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=776
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tHi82PDGDe8#t=860

2012: 51 yard TD against Austin Peay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGSUijeux_8

For some reason I'm a little hung up on size this year, thus would love Evans at receiver or Niklas. At the same time love Cooks.

Pride of my home town lol

Lyerla is likely going in the 4th or 5th round & is the better of the two, take Zach Martin @19.
also think this running back conversation could be better resolved with a genuine FB in the stable, have two real bangers to be had in the later rounds.
who has never tried cocaine? must we start again this pretentious bull****. crack is addictive, cocaine is not... many people experiment with the drug, then go their merry way.

"the 23rd wrote:

Lyerla is likely going in the 4th or 5th round & is the better of the two, take Zach Martin @19.
also think this running back conversation could be better resolved with a genuine FB in the stable, have two real bangers to be had in the later rounds.
who has never tried cocaine? must we start again this pretentious bull****. crack is addictive, cocaine is not... many people experiment with the drug, then go their merry way.

:shifty:

"phinsational wrote:

:shifty:

That is the best reply ever hahahaha.

"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:

blake annen out of cincy.
6'4, 247, 4.42 speed, 34" vert, 25 bench reps.
this guy was the most misused player in college last year. cincy wasted all his athleticism by making him into a blocking tight end. so, what we have here is an athletic freak who is a superior run blocker as well. take him in the 5th round.

So much this.

"phinsational wrote:

:shifty:

seriously I cam back on after a few hours am jut starting laughing again. It's really the funniest response to anyone on here ever. Fallon is amazing in that skit combined with the bolded comment.

He such a great coked up football player...can't we just please take a chance on the dirty coke whore..

I kind of find it interesting that Tyrann Mathieu (although his drug use was less intense) did this whole public apology tour last year. He went and did a 1 on 1 with Deion Sanders, was on one of those pre-draft workout shows with Mariucci, etc etc. It earned him some pretty positive public sentiment, I think he was covered pretty positively leading up to the draft and in his rookie year.

Meanwhile, I haven't heard **** from Lyerla. Maybe he doesn't think he needs to fix his image in the public eye or thinks it can't be fixed. I do really think it would help if he had gotten on the same PR stint that Mathieu had. Maybe he just needs a better agent or just isn't bright enough to take the advice.

Lyerla has been contrite from what I've seen. But he's just not been as active. In fairness, there hasn't been as much interest in him.

"djphinfan wrote:

He such a great coked up football player...can't we just please take a chance on the dirty coke whore..

Worked for Micheal Irving and LT /shrug... Different times i guess ;)