You ever check out mydeathspace.com? So many young, attractive people committing suicide. Don't understand it.

 

Tosh.Oh-****

 

Dumb.

People can't deal with things so they do extreme **** like this. You have to wonder why the camera and all that. I've gotta think that they feel that doing it infront of an audience makes them a martyr or some kind of symbol.

 

They want people to feel sorry for them. They want attention ...

 

Yup.

Which makes even less sense since they'll be dead and not enjoying their attention.

 

eh I think its more then that. You guys are thinking like a normal person would think. ANyone who offs themselves is far from normal. People who just want attention pretend they are sick or join something that brings that attention to themselves. People who do something as unnatural as killing themselves want/need more then attention IMO.

 

Ya, if they're just killed themselves then sure.

But to do it infront of an audience like that is something else, imo.

 

He did kill himself, which IMO escalates from a cry for attention to, something else. In other words if his web cam hadn't worked I doubt it would have stopped him from killing himself.

 

Probably would have done some sort of podcast beforehand too. LiveChat with a countdown?

 

That's a shame.

 

Anybody who is committed to killing themselves is doing it for something more or other than the attention. They most likely just decided that whatever pain they are feeling is not worth battling through. IMO setting up the webcam for a committed suicide is about sending a message.

 

What's their reward though, they're dead. They're not there for any of the attention. I think it's more along the lines of the martyr thing. They blame society or whatever and they want to martyr themselves for all to see.

 

Right, that was my initial thought as well.

Which again, makes even less sense. Like they really believe doing something like that will change the world.

Everyone reads this, a few people feel sad, and then we all forget a few weeks later.

 

For the record, I didn't mean he or anyone else was or has committed suicide for attention, the web cam **** is what I'm referring to...

 

For sure.

I don't think anyone would assume that.

 

selfish.

 

THAT is what I call a SHOW!

 

...is why this kid was probably not the most creative, or a writer.

 

Sorry to hear about that. Anyone taking their own life is a tragedy

 

Killing himself that way indicates a need to reach out, to connect in a way he couldn't in his life.

 

too soon? :lol:

but seriously, i'm fascinated by footage of the ending of a life. just watching the moment someone stopped being alive really amazes me - the video capture is immortalizing a significant event. reminds me of overseas man.... the enemy... right at death i swear you could see their soul ascending. trippy ****

 

ooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy thats.not.scary.at all...........

 

You sound like the creepy kid from American Beauty.

Do you also film plastic bags in the wind?

 

That's fascinating, words cannot express...The closest I've come is putting my roommates cat to sleep during college. Very peaceful for a cat who was in a lot of pain from too much ash in her cat food. I remember chanting internally some Buddhist mantra to bring about a peaceful transition (Om Mane Padme Meow Mix:shifty:).

This world can be such an obvious nightmare, it baffles me how more people don't meditate or seek deeper understanding when it comes to death.

 

I've never seen footage of anything like that except for once or twice on some website I ran across a ways back. It is definitely one of those things where 'you can't look away'.

 

Agreed 100%. I've said all along that suicide is the most selfish act that a person can do. It proves that the person doesn't give a **** about their friends and family at all. All it says is "Hey, feel sorry for me, and screw you!"

I've had a so called friend who did that, and I did go to the funeral, but it was so I could be there for his friends and family.

 

It's not something I think should be seen. I watched parts of the kid on the Bodybuilding forums who committed suicide live on camera and that was awful. Worst thing about it is that you don't even know how you can help him. You dunno anything about him, you don't know where he's located, nothing.

 

I def think it's an interesting topic.

A lot of people look for an understanding. Then again, a lot don't like some of the possibilities lol

 

Powerful stuff, tex. Can you articulate what that looked/felt like... that moment of sensing their soul ascending?

 

And we have evolved as humans?? Darwin where art thou??

 

He's still lookin good on survival of the fittest.

 

Kind of an awkward/uncomfortable topic, actually. Once you witness it in person, it just has a different effect on you; hard to really describe. I'm definitely not "into" this stuff, just saying I'm intrigued by it. :wink2:

I don't think it's right or wrong - just that it's significant. Think about it - thousands of billions, possibly trillions of people have died in this world since the beginning of time. How few have the ends of their lives immortalized, however unspectacular the deaths might be? In this case this kid had, what, 20+/- years of life, history, family, tons of friends and acquaintances... a story... that he left behind. You just witnessed the end of that. What's even crazier? That his mother, father, girlfriend, sister, best friend, grandmom, and everyone else that was in his life - had to watch it. mind-boggling, seriously. Put yourself in his mother's shoes.

Now when you see it in person, words cannot describe. You feel all of the same above but you also realize "I'm the only person that was able to witness this life end." His mother & father will not know what happened. His wife & children won't know - and that's the bad part. You want the loved ones to know. Not watch obviously, but know what really happened. (Which brings me to another point - if you've served, chances are you have known some parents of soldiers you served with who needed to know how they lost their sons. I tell them the truth, that he was a hero). So back to the deceased, you feel the warmth leave the body rather quickly and to me, the soul seems to fade with the stoppage of blood flow. This seems to happen really fast as your mind races and the adrenaline is kicking your ***. Then the blood coagulates.

Ugh, too gruesome now. Sorry for rambling.

Sorry you asked? too soon? :lol:

 

I hope the irony is not lost that this has now become a topic on a Miami Dolphins fan board...as well as many other message boards across the internet, as well as newspapers, blurbs on radio shows and television as well. The goal was essentially met by the person that commited suicide. They have been able to reach out and communicate with more people in their death than they seemingly could in their life.

Mission accomplished.

The part that is overlooked is the suicide itself. Mainly because it happens to many faceless people every day. The video, putting it online, puts a face and thus, a life to it. Makes the person human instead of a statistic, which most of us will brush off.

Sure, in a few weeks, or even days we will have forgotten about this and moved on ourselves, but would this even be a story if they hadn't put it online?

Most likely not, not unless someone knew the person personally and decided to share, which again, brings about the human element of the tragedy.

The saddest part is, that once this becomes even MORE prevelant (and it will), our jaded selves will become calloused to this as well and thus, it will begat even crazier stuff to occur.

 

Meh, you're a strange one. But then again, what's normal? jk, kind of.

Anyways, I think what you see when someone/thing dies is as open to interpretation as spirituality is. Obv the known scientific facts apply.

 

People in this world are searching for, by and large, two things: acceptance and understanding (which are two of the main components of 'true' love). When they don't get (or feel that they are getting) those things, it leads to some very negative thought patterns.

I've been there, and so I really understand and feel where these kids are coming from and what state of mind they're in. Yes, they a looking for attention, but it's far more than just that. They've lost a (huge) chunk of their soul, usually from a series of occurances, and they don't feel there is anything out there that can get it back or fill the void for them. The message is: Death is less painful than living.

The cam is just their (final) way of communicating that pain to others as it is usually difficult (if not impossible in some circumstances) to do so through traditional means. It can also serve as further motivation to carry out the act if they are hesitant (which they usually are) through the comments of trolls and the twisted logic of "Well, it's live now, so I'd better go through with it or I'd just be disappointing more people in my miserable, disappointing life".

Tragic, simply tragic. :pity:

All I can offer is my condolances to the family and friends; and that if ever any one of you needs to talk to someone who's been there at the bottom of it all and come out the other side, I'm here for ya-just send me a PM.

 

On a kind of side-note, that movie, Here After w/ Matt Damon looks like it could be interesting.

I think you can guess the subject.

 

Not sorry at all, my friend. Life and the universe only give us rare glimpses if the bigger picture. You've experienced little glimpses, beyond our daily survival and rat race crap.

This stuff fascinates me.

And I can't imagine being present at someone's death and NOT becoming deeply philosophical about it.

Would love to discuss it further. Perhaps via PM or phone if it's not too heavy for you to re-visit.

Like I said, it fascinates me.

 

The ones that want attention don't kill themselves.