Zach Thomas HOF....or should be.

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Jun 21, 2019, 07:36 AM


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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Jun 21, 2019, 07:58 AM

A GREAT travesty.

Zach should have been first ballot.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jun 21, 2019, 08:18 AM

Sadly, the media constantly loved and fawned over Urlacher, from the point that he was in college until the day he retired, while Zach was almost always a side note. None of us need to have it argued that Zach is just as worthy. The fact that he gets ignored even after the logjam has passed is tragic.

firedanfiredanforum_veteran
Jun 21, 2019, 08:35 AM

Forget Pedro,vote for Zach.

TheHighExhaultedTheHighExhaultedforum_veteran
Jun 21, 2019, 12:47 PM

They'll put Bruschi in before Thomas. Sad but true.

AGAGuyNamedAlexforum_veteran
Jun 21, 2019, 05:38 PM

Zach Thomas was a guy who I always thought as a kid exemplified the way you play the game at a high level. Intelligence, preparation, hard work and a motor that never quits. Not only that but he was undoubtedly the glue that held our defenses together.

If we won a single Superbowl he would be first ballot.

PAPaulyforum_veteran
Jun 21, 2019, 10:42 PM

He has several strikes against him.
1) His low draft position and the lack of hype that surrounded his first two or three seasons.
2) He went about his job in a business like manner. There was almost no showboating the way Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher did.
3) No SB ring.
4) Playing a position that doesn’t generate a lot of high profile stats like sacks.

Some positions like MLB, DT, interior OL and safety are just under-represented in the HoF. Zachary played an un-sexy position and retired without a SB ring. He didn’t have a hype train telling everyone he was great. I think he was a better MLB than Ray Lewis because I think while he made slightly fewer “splash” plays I cannot remember Zach gambling and getting caught out of position the way Ray Lewis sometimes did. However HoF voters remember the hype and the splash plays and the SB rings.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jun 22, 2019, 12:29 AM

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

They'll put Bruschi in before Thomas. Sad but true.

You're probably right, but that is such total nonsense. Zach destroys Tedy in every single way. Bruschi only started all 16 games four times in his career, and more than nine games three others. And a huge percentage of his production came in a tight window from 2002-2004.

AGAGuyNamedAlexforum_veteran
Jun 22, 2019, 09:28 AM

"Pauly wrote:

He has several strikes against him.
1) His low draft position and the lack of hype that surrounded his first two or three seasons.
2) He went about his job in a business like manner. There was almost no showboating the way Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher did.
3) No SB ring.
4) Playing a position that doesn’t generate a lot of high profile stats like sacks.

Some positions like MLB, DT, interior OL and safety are just under-represented in the HoF. Zachary played an un-sexy position and retired without a SB ring. He didn’t have a hype train telling everyone he was great. I think he was a better MLB than Ray Lewis because I think while he made slightly fewer “splash” plays I cannot remember Zach gambling and getting caught out of position the way Ray Lewis sometimes did. However HoF voters remember the hype and the splash plays and the SB rings.

I think he and Ray were equals with different strengths to their games.

Unfortunately people see those splash plays and dont remember the times you were out of position.

Tin IndianTin Indianforum_veteran
Jun 22, 2019, 04:22 PM

No question Zach belongs in the Hall. Has the numbers for it.

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Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Jun 22, 2019, 05:53 PM

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

They'll put Bruschi in before Thomas. Sad but true.

that would be stupid lol but its gonna happen..

The G ManThe G Manforum_veteran
Jun 28, 2019, 04:24 PM

Definitely should be.

Maybe 2020.

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firedanfiredanforum_veteran
Jun 28, 2019, 05:09 PM

Should be but won't.I don't think the pundits appreciated him as much as some of us.

Patster1969Patster1969subscriber
Jul 1, 2019, 05:32 AM

"firedan wrote:

Should be but won't.I don't think the pundits appreciated him as much as some of us.

Probably because he wasn't a loudmouth showoff - sad when someone who was drafted on day 3 with no hoopla and worked/studied his arse off to be one of the best in history at his position can't get any love from the HOF voters or pundits

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