0-16 here we come!

4 games seems like the ceiling for us this year. I see what they are trying to do, I just can't help but think when its all said and done we are still going to be in a 50/50 chance of building a great team through the draft. It will only take one or two critical misses on the top picks to put us right back into mediocre hell again.

This will be the worst OL Miami has ever fielded and likely the worst one in the NFL in years. That means you can’t run the ball, protect the QB so they can pass the ball. Even though I like our defense, we need to score and/or keep them off the field so they stay fresh. That isn’t gonna be happening. If we win 2 or more games, I’d be surprised.

"mlb1399 wrote:

This will be the worst OL Miami has ever fielded and likely the worst one in the NFL in years. That means you can’t run the ball, protect the QB so they can pass the ball. Even though I like our defense, we need to score and/or keep them off the field so they stay fresh. That isn’t gonna be happening. If we win 2 or more games, I’d be surprised.

I honestly think we'll be able to run the ball some- both rookie guards were blowing people off the LOS in pre-season. That may not be enough to win consistently but if we can run some, then that opens the play action to throw jump balls to Parker or that other rookie.

Forgive me for not knowing our players names- that's what happens when you fire basically everyone.

X with this Tweet...

So guys u still think 0-16 is not possible?

"pumpdogs wrote:

So guys u still think 0-16 is not possible?

I still think we'll win at least 1 game. Very hard to go 0-16 unless the players themselves quit. Also.. despite the historically bad performance out there I do think we'll look more like a pro football team as the season progresses.

"cbrad wrote:

I still think we'll win at least 1 game. Very hard to go 0-16 unless the players themselves quit. Also.. despite the historically bad performance out there I do think we'll look more like a pro football team as the season progresses.

I would be shocked if we don't go 0-16 this team is by far the worst team in the trenches on both sides of the ball.
College teams would have been more of a challenge for the Ravens today.

"cbrad wrote:

I still think we'll win at least 1 game. Very hard to go 0-16 unless the players themselves quit. Also.. despite the historically bad performance out there I do think we'll look more like a pro football team as the season progresses.

Seems to me like the players did quit.

"cbrad wrote:

I still think we'll win at least 1 game. Very hard to go 0-16 unless the players themselves quit. Also.. despite the historically bad performance out there I do think we'll look more like a pro football team as the season progresses.

To me, it kinda looked like the secondary quit about 30 seconds after kickoff. And since we play 3 more division winners in a row, I don't see it getting any better over the next month. I'm not sure how Flores doesn't lose the team by week 5 (perhaps our best shot at a W this season).

"KeyFin wrote:

To me, it kinda looked like the secondary quit about 30 seconds after kickoff. And since we play 3 more division winners in a row, I don't see it getting any better over the next month. I'm not sure how Flores doesn't lose the team by week 5 (perhaps our best shot at a W this season).

This team has zero talent in the trenches.Wilkins doesn't seem very impressive either.

Twitter thread worth a quick read:

Here's the TLDR:

Ethan J Skolnick (EJS from here on out):
The problem with some drastic, sweeping boardroom strategies in sports — like business — is you forget actual real people are involved. And they may not feel like being productive for you anymore.

Adam Smooth (AS from here on out):
But these boardroom strategies are all “drastic.” Paying Nick Foles $88m to go 8-8 is drastic. The tank plan sucks for some players, no doubt, but asking them to go out and be productive for a slightly better result (5-11? 6-10?) with no long term plan isn’t any better. It is truly baffling to me that anyone thinks the Dolphins being really bad is some unacceptable travesty. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Where exactly in this 15-year stretch would one 3-13 season look out of place? People are suddenly concerned about a tank job wasting a year or two of some guys’ careers, like Zach Thomas and JT and Cam Wake didn’t all waste large portions of their careers not tanking, all just to end up in CBS’ “In the Hunt” graphic every December. Anyway, can we hold off on assuming every week is gonna be a massive slaughter based on a one-game sample size against a very good Ravens team? The last time Miami played Baltimore they were trying really hard to win and lost 40-0. We always demand athletes be mentally tough and willing to endure anything for the good of the team and now we’re like “whoa whoa what if we offend them by having a plan they don’t agree with??”

EJS:
Football means risking long term health. Not same as NBA. 4 times as many players too. And game is based on trust. Now half your teammates are new and suck. It’s a big ask.

AS:
The options: A) Risk long term health for ~8-8 B) Risk long term health for potential franchise-altering QB I get the athlete’s dilemma. Don’t even blame them for wanting out. But this is the path. They tried other ways and wasted a handful of great players’ careers.

EJS:
The problem with B is they know they won’t be around when that QB becomes a star.

AS:
And the problem with A is that your career is a hamster wheel. Pick your poison.

Anybody want to still argue with my post?This might be the worst team in nfl history.

"pumpdogs wrote:

Anybody want to still argue with my post?This might be the worst team in nfl history.

Yeah I don't think we go 0-16.

14 games to go..

There are some other bad looking teams we will have a realistic shot at. 0-16 is still a challenge, but yeah we are terrible.

Also to be fair, we may have played 2 of the top 3 teams in the AFC already.

Not only does 0-16 look realistic but this may be the worst football team ever fielded in the NFL.

I wonder what this season does to the fan base and if many of those people ever come back?

"mlb1399 wrote:

Not only does 0-16 look realistic but this may be the worst football team ever fielded in the NFL.

I wonder what this season does to the fan base and if many of those people ever come back?

The fan thing is way overblown imo. There will likely be way less interest as the season moves on, but add Tua, get some OL and a passrusher and people will be intrigued. Make a legit playoff run and people will be there. Winning cures all.

"mlb1399 wrote:

Not only does 0-16 look realistic but this may be the worst football team ever fielded in the NFL.

I wonder what this season does to the fan base and if many of those people ever come back?

Decades of mediocrity have already weeded out the fair-weather fans. All that's left is a cult following; unlikely that diminishes much, but it will take several years of undeniable success to start filling the stadium again. Ross has to regain the trust of his fan-base, and IMO, that relationship doesn't seem reparable.

"pumpdogs wrote:

Anybody want to still argue with my post?This might be the worst team in nfl history.

Definitely an all-time bad team. Even the 1-16 looked competent for most of the season. They were losing close score games.

"cbrad wrote:

Yeah I don't think we go 0-16.

14 games to go..

This is the worst team I ever seen.
102 -10 at home.Cardinals were supposed to be one the worst teams and put up a fight against the Ravens.
Who are we going to beat?

I am all for rebuilding but this is hard to watch.

"pumpdogs wrote:

I am all for rebuilding but this is hard to watch.

Not meaning to be snarky here, but you don't have to. It's a good excuse to get drunk/high though. :)

"cbrad wrote:

We won't win many games and I'm fine with that because they're tanking with a plan (or "re-tooling" or whatever you want to call it but in reality it's tanking with a plan). It's the same thing I went through with the Astros for years before their stockpiled picks won them the World Series. No reason Dolphins can't do the same thing.

However, 0-16 is HARD to accomplish when the players aren't deliberately trying to lose. Only the 1976 Tampa Bay Bucs (0-14), 2008 Detroit Lions (0-16) and 2017 Cleveland Browns (0-16) lost every game of the regular season in NFL history. But if anyone wants a 1:1 odds bet with real money where I'm betting that we do NOT end up 0-16.. I'm game lol.

Assuming the Astros purposefully tanked to accumulate draft stock, baseball is a whole other animal. you only need 25 in a major league roster, and even then you have a minor league farm system to work with. This is football; completely different animal.

"mlb1399 wrote:

Not only does 0-16 look realistic but this may be the worst football team ever fielded in the NFL.

I wonder what this season does to the fan base and if many of those people ever come back?

The Cleveland Browns have a pretty rabid fanbase, so they'll still sell tickets.

"MikeHoncho wrote:

Assuming the Astros purposefully tanked to accumulate draft stock, baseball is a whole other animal. you only need 25 in a major league roster, and even then you have a minor league farm system to work with. This is football; completely different animal.

Same principle. You don't need all 53 players to be great in football so it doesn't matter that the roster size is per se. In both sports you'll need a good number of key players and decent supporting cast and tanking at least theoretically allows you to make that occur faster. Of course you need to be able to draft well and the Astros did that. Whether we will we'll find out, but at least with the #1 pick even our GM shouldn't make a stupid decision on the most important position: QB.

"texanphinatic wrote:

Not meaning to be snarky here, but you don't have to. It's a good excuse to get drunk/high though. :)

Lol!I am a glutton for punishment.