Okay, should Don Shula be number one on this list? Maybe, maybe not, but certainly at #11 the Don deserves to be ahead of some of the names listed ahead of him.
Five Super Bowl appearances
The first head coach to go to three consecutive Super Bowls
Two consecutive Super Bowl wins
The ONLY head coach to have an undefeated season
The All time winningest coach in NFL history.
And he's listed at #11 behind George Seifert, Jimmy Johnson, John Madden, Hank Stram?
Really?????
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- Seifert - NFL's all time winningest coach with one team. Notice that little caveat at the end, that's because he is actual behind Shula and others in winning percentage
- JJ - He is credited for building the Cowboys and taking them from worst to first.
Fair enough but didn't Don do that with the Phins as well?
- Madden - If we are counting regular season winning percentage that highly then were is George Allen on that list?
- Stram - Guess we are weighting those AFL titles pretty heavily.
- Seifert - NFL's all time winningest coach with one team. Notice that little caveat at the end, that's because he is actual behind Shula and others in winning percentage
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I won't comment on most of the older coaches because I know very little about them. But George ****ing Seifert ahead of Shula is criminal.
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Walsh at 8?
JJ ahead of Shula?
Bellichick isnt even on the list?
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Shula coached 6 SB teams.
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I got upset for a second there. NFL Network will be having a greatest coaches special. At first thought I already missed it, and they were that stupid.
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George Seifert above Shula makes the list irrelevant nonsense. You just don't understand the NFL at a very basic, fundamental level if you have Seifert over Shula. Theres no argument to be made that Seifert is better than Shula. Hell Seifert being in the top 10 is absurd. Above Shula and Chuck Noll? I mean seriously, I'd laugh in someone's face and dismiss them as an idiot about sports if they even tried to sell me this load of nonsense. Embarrassing that someone actually wrote this and expects to be taken seriously.
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Those guys couldn't carry Shulas jock strap.
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Based on those names listed, if I had to make a Top 10 list...
1. Paul Brown- Not only do his 7 titles make him the greatest, some of the greatest NFL Coaches coaches under him
1. Vince Lombardi- 9 Seasons with the Packers, 6 titles to include 2 Super Bowls
2. Curly Lambeau- 6 titles and 226 wins
3. Don Shula- 6 Super Bowl appearances; 2 Super Bowl victories; only undefeated season; all time winningest coach
4. Chuck Noll- Four Super Bowl victories in 6 years during the 70's; enough said
5. Tom Landry- 4 Super Bowl appearances; 2 Super Bowl victories
6. George "Papa Bear" Halas- This may seem like a slap in the face of Papa Bear, but the league was smaller then and he coached for 50 years. Odds were in his favor.
7. Joe Gibbs- Four Super Bowl appearances; three victories in four years...with three different quarterbacks!
8. Marv Levy (Add on)- Four consecutive Super Bowl appearances. Probably the greatest coach to never win a Super Bowl
9. Bill Walsh- Three Super Bowl titles and the founding father of the west coast offense. He deserves the top 10
10. Bud Grant- 4 Super Bowl appearances. Second greatest coach to never win a Super Bowlmi2cents, steveincolorado, Bpk and 2 others like this. -
At first I thought it was a real article. Anyone could write the crap he did.
see look.
Top 10 Greatest QBs of all time!
1. Mark Sanchez
2. Tim Tebow
3. Greg McElroy
4. Ronnie Brown
5. Ryan Leaf
6. Cooper Manning
7. Shane Falco
8. Phillip Rivers
9. Tony Romo
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I think Ronnie threw a better spiral than Sanchez.
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ESPN is doing the same thing. Here's a link if anyone is interested:
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Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member
Wow....just wow...the LEADING all time coach in wins, playoff appearances and btw, engineered the only PERFECT season, #11....you gotta be kidding me...I suppose BB will #1 cause he's the league and media darling... I'm pretty shocked he's not in the top 2-3....someone goofed up there...
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Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member
There have been several who've won more titles. Ranking coaches is always tough (esp. b/c we tend to ignore older eras).
I'd have:
1. Lombardi (easy)
2. Paul Brown (first true innovator)
3. Shula (won everywhere; if he had given up GM duties and had one worth his salt in 80s/90s he'd have more then 2 SBs).
4. Walsh (changed game)
5. Landry
6. George Halas
7. Chuck Noll (great stretch in 70's but the drafting was key - greatest drafts in history in early 70's imo).
8. Lambeau
9. Belichick
10. Gibbs
I don't see how any of those could be left out of the top 10. Other good ones - but I'd take them as coaches.smahtaz likes this. -
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this is a travesty of justice . Jimmy Johnson should never be ahead Knoll or Shula in fact I would put Mike Shanahan before Jimmy Johnson.
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I'm watching the ESPN show about the top 20 coaches of all time. They didn't even have Siefert in the list of 10 coaches who missed the cut. JJ was #13. They're counting down and they haven't mentioned Shula yet. He's at least in the top 5. Paul Brown #6.
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Shula should be #1, hands down he is just the best there has been.
JJ's issue is the list is "NFL" not "Football Coaches", so his time a :theu: doesn't count.
All time pro football coaches I'd toss the CFL's Wally Buono on the list as well.
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Seriously ... insane.
And then:
'69 - Joe Green, L.C. Greenwood, Jon Kolb
'70 - Bradshaw, Blount
'71 - Jack Ham, Dwight White, Ernie Holmes, Mike Wagner, Larry Brown (OT)
'72 - Franco Harris, Steve Furness (not as great as others, but still, you got a HOF RB ...)
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Paul Brown told Bill Walsh his offense would never work in the NFL.
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Don't see how in the end, if we judge everything by winning...you don't give the nod to the guy with the most wins. That being said, if the all-time winningest coach isn't in the Top 3...then success can't be all about winning. If that's the case, Marty Shottenheimer needs to be in the pantheons of greatness.
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I think any top 4 would have to be Shula, Brown, Lombardi, Walsh and you could but them in whatever order you wanted and it would be hard to argue.
The next tier would include Halas, Landry, Gibbs & Noll, again, whatever order.
the last 2 spots could be used for any of these: Belicheck, Coughlin, Levy, Lambeau, Grant, Strahm, Gillmanrafael likes this. -
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Miami's 1972 season was amazing and Shula was the Architect. He lost his star quarterback early in the season and plugged in Earl Morrall and didn't miss a beat. The same Earl Morrall a lot of people thought was washed up. He is truly one of the greatest coaches of all times, if not the greatest coach. -
IMO, Paul Brown.
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Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member
This is ESPN's list up to date. Shula #3. Clearly Walsh will be #2 and Lombardi #1. There is simply no argument for Shula over Lombardi. Lombardi was dominant. The NFL was smaller but that meant teams were more stacked - which made it tougher. Shula is among the best ever but #of all-time wins shows only longevity not greatness.
There is no way that Emmit Smith is better than Jim Brown. More longevity but no one would take Emmit at his best over Brown at his best.
Lombardi is arguably the greatest coach in any sport, ever.
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