2015 First Round Draft Pick

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TOTomLikePhinsUkNew MemberOP
Apr 3, 2015, 07:33 PM

Most sources around the league are reporting that the Miami Dolphins are most interested in taking either CB Trae Waynes out of Michigan State, WR Philip Dorsett of the University of Miami or WR DeVante Parker from the University of Louisville with the 14th pick in the draft. Just wondering if you guys think we should give Tannehill another target as he starts to progress and move forward into a year where many predict he will get paid big money. Or if you think the better option would be an elite corner like Waynes who would fill a hole in an otherwise stacked Miami defence and turn it from a great unit to an elite one. However, other positions like LB and Guard still need to be addressed.

muskrat21muskrat21forum_veteran
Apr 3, 2015, 07:48 PM

if they go WR Dorsett would be nice. I rather they get perryman and dorsett.... address ILB and WR...

7777FinFansubscriber
Apr 3, 2015, 08:22 PM

"TomLikePhinsUk wrote:

Most sources around the league are reporting that the Miami Dolphins are most interested in taking either CB Trae Waynes out of Michigan State, WR Philip Dorsett of the University of Miami or WR DeVante Parker from the University of Louisville with the 14th pick in the draft. Just wondering if you guys think we should give Tannehill another target as he starts to progress and move forward into a year where many predict he will get paid big money. Or if you think the better option would be an elite corner like Waynes who would fill a hole in an otherwise stacked Miami defence and turn it from a great unit to an elite one. However, other positions like LB and Guard still need to be addressed.

Where are you getting "most sources?" I would looooove it they were right and we got Waynes.

PhinFan1968PhinFan1968subscriber
Apr 3, 2015, 08:27 PM

Waynes = Chubby. It'll never happen.

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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Apr 3, 2015, 09:05 PM

I'm in the minority but I think of all the "holes" on this team, CB is the least important. Not just because Taylor will be fine as the #2 and McCain will be fine in nickel, but also the position impacts our win/loss record less than other positions. All we need at the #2 CB spot is average talent. I'd much rather come out of this draft with a game changing WR, S, RB, LB or hell even another DT.

Imagine for a minute taking a really good rookie DT to pair with SUH. We'd have cheap talent to offset Suh's contract (some) while the young guy learns under Suh.

7777FinFansubscriber
Apr 3, 2015, 09:15 PM

Is there a game changing S in this draft? I don't think there is.

For me I think Trae could be an exceptional CB for years to come. I would love to get him.

Piston HondaPiston Hondaforum_veteran
Apr 3, 2015, 09:30 PM

"77FinFan wrote:

Is there a game changing S in this draft? I don't think there is.

For me I think Trae could be an exceptional CB for years to come. I would love to get him.

Yep. Grimes is 32 and bc of his size I think that when he begins to slide he's going to fall off a cliff. I dont trust Taylor to stay healthy, Davis and Thomas are coming off of ACLs. I don't study draft prospects much but if there's a physical, off corner type who can step in and play available I think the Dolphins would be foolish to pass on him.

BrasfinBrasfinforum_veteran
Apr 3, 2015, 09:39 PM

CB should still be a high priority in the offseason, be it through FA or the draft, IMO. We have very little depth at CB... Grimes is the only proven starter at the boundary, and while I think Jamar Taylor can get the job done as the number two, we pretty much have no one else behind him.

Will Davis might not be healthy to start the season and after him we have a bunch of nobodies in Sammy Seamster, TJ Heath, and Lowell Rose. If (knock on wood) something happens to Grimes, we are completely screwed. We all saw with the Jets what happens to a defense if you have no one at the CB position... it doesn't matter if you have an elite DL if your CBs can't cover for longer than 2 seconds.

7777FinFansubscriber
Apr 3, 2015, 10:27 PM

"Brasfin wrote:

CB should still be a high priority in the offseason, be it through FA or the draft, IMO. We have very little depth at CB... Grimes is the only proven starter at the boundary, and while I think Jamar Taylor can get the job done as the number two, we pretty much have no one else behind him.

Will Davis might not be healthy to start the season and after him we have a bunch of nobodies in Sammy Seamster, TJ Heath, and Lowell Rose. If (knock on wood) something happens to Grimes, we are completely screwed. We all saw with the Jets what happens to a defense if you have no one at the CB position... it doesn't matter if you have an elite DL if your CBs can't cover for longer than 2 seconds.

Don't forget McCain, but not sure how he would be opposite Grimey as opposed to slot.

BrasfinBrasfinforum_veteran
Apr 3, 2015, 11:38 PM

"77FinFan wrote:

Don't forget McCain, but not sure how he would be opposite Grimey as opposed to slot.

Yeah, I'm counting him as the slot.. but if someone like Grimes goes down, things get ugly, because I think only Taylor can play the nickle as well. Then we'd have Taylor as number 1, McCain number 2 and who else? Or Taylor CB1, McCain slot, then someone like Lowell Rose would be the CB2, or Davis if he's healthy... that spells trouble, IMO.

SilverphinSilverphinforum_veteran
Apr 3, 2015, 11:50 PM

CB draft is looking pretty deep this year.

PandarillaPandarillaforum_veteran
Apr 4, 2015, 12:08 AM

I'd go wr over cb. Waynes was never thought to be elite until he turned in a great 40 time. If the three wr's are gone along with Gurley. I think we haveto trade back and pick up a Perriman, Goldman or McKinney.

This draft is more topheavy than a German mail order bride post WWII. We can still get top talent through round 3.

PhinFan1968PhinFan1968subscriber
Apr 4, 2015, 12:31 AM

"Piston Honda wrote:

Yep. Grimes is 32 and bc of his size I think that when he begins to slide he's going to fall off a cliff. I dont trust Taylor to stay healthy, Davis and Thomas are coming off of ACLs. I don't study draft prospects much but if there's a physical, off corner type who can step in and play available I think the Dolphins would be foolish to pass on him.

Thomas was pectoral I thought?

Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”

:rimshot:

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Apr 4, 2015, 03:40 AM

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

Thomas was pectoral I thought?

Yes it was a pectoral. He'd be our #2 slot corner and probably the #1 dime back. Assuming all are healthy.

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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Apr 4, 2015, 06:46 AM

"Piston Honda wrote:

Yep. Grimes is 32 and bc of his size I think that when he begins to slide he's going to fall off a cliff. I dont trust Taylor to stay healthy, Davis and Thomas are coming off of ACLs. I don't study draft prospects much but if there's a physical, off corner type who can step in and play available I think the Dolphins would be foolish to pass on him.

You want to spend a 1st rd pick on depth?

bakedmattbakedmattNew Member
Apr 4, 2015, 07:13 AM

Are we really considering Phillip Dorsett in the 1st round?

@matthewfpepin

Phoenician FanPhoenician Fanforum_veteran
Apr 4, 2015, 07:15 AM

Trade down and add a pick or two and then draft this guy:http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25130369/nfl-draft-uconn-cb-byron-jones-runs-a-43-40-yard-dash

I don't think people are realizing how rare a prospect this kid is. To find a world class athlete like this who has elite character and intelligence doesn't happen often.

If all the Dolphins got out of this draft was a great LG, Byron Jones, and WR Mike Conley, I would be OK with it. Conley is another freak athlete with great size,elite character and intelligence.

Phoenician FanPhoenician Fanforum_veteran
Apr 4, 2015, 07:20 AM

"Phoenician Fan wrote:

Trade down and add a pick or two and then draft this guy:http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25130369/nfl-draft-uconn-cb-byron-jones-runs-a-43-40-yard-dash

I don't think people are realizing how rare a prospect this kid is. To find a world class athlete like this who has elite character and intelligence doesn't happen often.

If all the Dolphins got out of this draft was a great LG, Byron Jones, and WR Mike Conley, I would be OK with it. Conley is another freak athlete with great size,elite character and intelligence.

Sorry, Chris Conley UGA. Who is Mike Conley?

bakedmattbakedmattNew Member
Apr 4, 2015, 07:26 AM

"Phoenician Fan wrote:

Sorry, Chris Conley UGA. Who is Mike Conley?

NBA guard.

@matthewfpepin

TOTomLikePhinsUkNew Member
Apr 4, 2015, 07:40 AM

Bucky Brooks and Lance Zierlein have us taking DeVante Parker in their latest mock drafts, while Charles Davis and Daniel Jeremiah have us selecting Trae Waynes. I wouldn't mind either as Parker gives us a slightly bigger receiver to use as a red-zone threat while Waynes is a slightly larger CB who's 40 time was eye popping.

In an AFC East that features, Sammy Watkins, Brandon Marshall, Percy Harvin, Eric Decker and then whoever Brady decides to throw it to we need a legit man-to-man receiver and can't rely on Davis or Taylor to play no.2 (McCain would only play Nickel). However, if Waynes is not available then I say address CB either through free agency or hope that Taylor can progress and select Parker to give Tannehill even more targets as he accounts for the loss of one of his go-to guys Charles Clay. If neither are free then I say we trade down and get more picks for later in the draft.

PUpumpdogsforum_veteran
Apr 4, 2015, 09:27 AM

"Fin D wrote:

You want to spend a 1st rd pick on depth?

We already did that and his name is dion jordan.

Nappy RootsNappy Rootsforum_veteran
Apr 4, 2015, 10:37 AM

"Phoenician Fan wrote:

Trade down and add a pick or two and then draft this guy:http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25130369/nfl-draft-uconn-cb-byron-jones-runs-a-43-40-yard-dash

I don't think people are realizing how rare a prospect this kid is. To find a world class athlete like this who has elite character and intelligence doesn't happen often.

If all the Dolphins got out of this draft was a great LG, Byron Jones, and WR Mike Conley, I would be OK with it. Conley is another freak athlete with great size,elite character and intelligence.

But can they play football? Being an athlete and a good guy can only take you so far

ITItsdahumidityforum_veteran
Apr 4, 2015, 10:48 AM

"Phoenician Fan wrote:

Trade down and add a pick or two and then draft this guy:http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25130369/nfl-draft-uconn-cb-byron-jones-runs-a-43-40-yard-dash

I don't think people are realizing how rare a prospect this kid is. To find a world class athlete like this who has elite character and intelligence doesn't happen often.

If all the Dolphins got out of this draft was a great LG, Byron Jones, and WR Mike Conley, I would be OK with it. Conley is another freak athlete with great size,elite character and intelligence.

No to a trade down. A chance at a top 15 player? Pick your top rated available player.

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CashInFistCashInFistforum_veteran
Apr 4, 2015, 10:58 AM

"Silverphin wrote:

CB draft is looking pretty deep this year.

That's what I was thinking. Several look like they can play.

SilverphinSilverphinforum_veteran
Apr 4, 2015, 11:40 AM

"Nappy Roots wrote:

But can they play football? Being an athlete and a good guy can only take you so far

Chris Conley can ball out. I think he'd be a great pick up round two.

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