I've become a Portland Timbers fan this year. Never liked soccer before, couldn't really get into the games. This year was different, and I wasn’t sure why. Maybe it was a combination of the lock out, Miami’s suckatude, and the great atmosphere at the games in Portland, but I found myself drawn in. I haven’t even been able to see a match live yet, season ticket wait list is over 4k for next year and they only have like 500 tickets available game day.
The quote above was from John Spencer the Timbers coach. Soccer, like hockey, is a sport were ties can be good things. Yet the Timbers have always (:lol: at least for the one year I've been watching) seemed to have this attitude when playing at home. It means more. I cannot remember the last time I saw that attitude from the Dolphins. I’m not sure why. I think it starts with the head coach. I originally gave Tony a pass on this with his “with us or not, we don’t care” comments. I’ve reconsidered though. I’m tuning in to watch them. I’m spending my money to watch them. You guys are showing up to see them at home. (I’ve only seen road games, but they’ve all been wins by the good guys) That has to make the game more meaningful, or why should I/we do any of that. It's why I'm loving the Timbers. They get it, from the coach down.
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After watching the world cup and the champions league and now watching it again including the Spanish teams Real and Barca, I have a hard time watching the Fins eneptitude and even football seems to be a long commercial.
I get your quote but this team has no leaders and no HC, look at Jim Harbough already 4-1 and to think they called out Ross for talking to Jim.
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The Dolphins play poorly at home because their fans cannot connect with them in their own stadium, and, the players are playing with their own self motivation cause of the fanbases laziness....period..end of story..
How many times does one need to hear that no'one has an explanation as to why we suck at home for them to realize I am right. -
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When we've had good teams we have won plenty at home. We were 5-3 there Sparano's first year and only lost the opener to the Jets, and to Baltimore and NE. We then went 4-4 in 2009 but lost to all good teams, Indy, Pitt, NO and Hou.
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I think people are hard wired to look for explanations. It doesn't even matter whether they're real or not. It's like the news reports after any day when there's a significant move in the stock markets. "The Dow was up today on "yadda, yadda, made up reason news". It's complete B.S., but I think people would rather have an explanation, even a made up or incorrect one rather than no explanation. It's the same thing with our Dolphins. People will look for some quote or event and pretend that this is "the reason" for whatever problem is being discussed. Reality is that there aren't single reasons that explain complex systems.
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And I notice your stance has gone to "I am right" to "I might be (right)". -
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It might not be as fancy as some of the enwer ones, and lacks the charm of an old classic like Lambeau but there is nothing wrong with the stadium which somehow makes it a disadvantage to the Dolphins. any suggestion otherwise is based on fantasy. -
How bout in the weight room, the practice field leading up to the game, the offseason, A real homefield advantage can motivate all by itself..we have no homefield advantage, stadium doesn't allow it. -
John Spencer will be an excellent manager , always looked after himself as a player.
Didnt realise he was managing in the MSL , will keep an eye on for those results now :DTwo Tacos likes this. -
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My post wasn't about their performance, but the attitude that I see. I don't get the feeling that matters. Home games don't have more importance, when they should, regardless of the talent of the team. It's not just wins and loses that turn me off. I'm sure they contribute to the general attitude, but even the season that looked like we were turning it around under Saban, or Tony's first year, I didn't get the idea that home games were more important than road games. It's accepted that coaches can lose teams, well this is one way that teams lose fan bases. Winning is the best tonic for everything and makes people look past stuff they won't otherwise.
I am removed from the culture of Miami, maybe it doesn’t matter. I’ve seen some bad Blazer and Seahawk teams. At home it always mattered more. -
So........If our players have to have a great environment at home to play well........how is it they play better on the road in a hostile environment, with no support at all?
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'Sun life''= ''No life''= Passive behavior= poor performance= poor home record= angry fans= no patience=negativity= unmotivated football players= dissension between fans and players= 1 and 12 at home...
Can a collective group of great players and coaches change all this..I hope so, Its why I keep saying year after year, that its gonna take a special group of athletes to play in this town and in that stadium to achieve a championship.. -
And if the answer to the question is how our players feed off the hostile energy and bond as a team within themselves, then the natural conclusion is that Miami's stadium therefore is a great homefield advantage because it detracts from away teams' ability to feed off the hostile energy of the Miami home crowd and bond within themselves.
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The Packers were terrible for a long time between Lombardi and Favre, yet they played in Lambeau (sometimes Milwaukee county stadium).
The answer is simple. When the Packers had good teams, they played wel at home. When hey didn't, playing at Lambeau made little difference. -
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Would Reshad Jones be able to cover somebody? Would Brandon MArshall catch all those passes he dropped? What tangibly would be different about this etam?
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