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Arian Foster talks about being an openly non-religious NFL player

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by Unlucky 13, Aug 7, 2015.

  1. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Sorry Ohio, I don't agree. You have people breaking down someones "attributes" for being a good employee, and "christian man" or "comes from a christian family" is used quite frequently to describe someone positively. You'll never hear someone want to hire my sister who is 18 to babysit and say "Shes young, comes from a big family, is atheist, we should hire her!"

    Your job, or you getting a job won't be judged based on being religious, thats the "norm" far more than saying you don't believe or are agnostic/Atheist. jmo
     
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  2. MikeHoncho

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    For the record CiF would definitely hire your sister. Religious or not. 18 right?
     
  3. Ohiophinphan

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    SICK, if you are saying that atheists or agnostics face more discrimination or at least disdain than Christians do, then I concede that freely. You are sadly correct. My point was/is that it is not UNIVERSALY one way.

    It should not be a factor, we should all evaluate folks on they treat us and the others around us but we take short cuts and for good or for evil, the public perception has been that adherence to the Christian faith comes with a catalog of benefits. That opinion is breaking down, far more rapidly than you might suspect, but it has and does exist.

    As an aside, I have a close friend who would not use kids who attend Christian schools as babysitters because he was afraid they might try to indoctrinate his children. That view is rare and new but it does exist.

    Did all of you see the episode of BIG BANG where Sheldon and Leonard's mothers got into it? Leonard's mother was dismissive of Sheldon's Mom for believing her "myths" and her simple minded "delusions". Sheldon's Mom suggested Leonard's Mom was a ice princess without human feelings or compassion. It was funny at least in part because it focused on the stereotypes folks apply to people on the other side of an issue they hold dear.

    But in short, SICK, yes, it is far more likely that a Christian will dismiss an atheist than the other way around. The gap is closing but it is still there.
     
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  4. Harmalama

    Harmalama Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Totally agreed. If everyone was as articulate, understanding and respectful as Ohiophinphan (whatever their religious stance) this world would be a better place.

    Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
     
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  5. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

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    Sick, respectfully, (I get a kick out of your posts) we both can go back and forth with experiences, and yes, on a secular level too. I NEVER said that non-believers faced no scrutiny. But the way I look at it, life isn't fair. I'm sure you've heard that at one time or another from someone looking out for you. It isn't right, but that's the reality of this world.

    We all deal with some level of intolerance and injustices and if you're an adult, you learn how to deal with it and move on. Everyone (for lack of a better term) is so thin skinned, especially on the Internet or when there is some type of self promotion going on in this nation, and it's getting worse. I'm not saying Foster is guilty of either. I don't know him. I find the article just flat out annoying and it's not only because I'm a religous person.

    What I DID say is that living a life or trying to "fit in" with others when you have high, and I should have said "bible based" morals, in a world with practically no morals, or very, very "tolerant" morals is harder than fitting in with people in a locker room and being looked at differently because you don't believe in God. I have been ostracized by family, friends etc , too. I DONT need a pity party, nor am I being a Martyr!

    That is my personal opinion and I'm sorry that it looks like I've offended so many. That's not my intention. I don't have the same filter on the Internet as I do in real life.
     
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  6. Fin D

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    These were your first two posts in this thread. They do not match the tone or content of this last post.

    Surely, you can see how people would have been upset by what you said.

    Had you posted then what you posted now, there'd have been no problem.
     
  7. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

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    I take responsibility. I didn't expect to ruffle so many feathers!.....
     
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  8. syborg

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    Without a standard of morality that surpasses our own then who is to say whose morality is right or wrong.. for instance if I wanted to pleasure a goat some may view that as abhorrent (I do too btw) but whose to say that is wrong.. if there is no set standard for morality then why does this government A object to what is happening with government B over the way... or if one bunch of people are killing another bunch of people .. why do we care if our kids lie to us or our partner cheats on us.. there has to be a plumb line - a universal one at that.. and if there is then there has to be a moral law giver who is perfect in that standard... ergo God.. our morality does not come from ourselves as if it did there would be chaos as we all did what we felt like regardless of the consequences.
     
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