Armando Salguero: Rolando McClain sucks. (uses U.Draft videos)

The UD videos are not highlight plays.

If he hasn't watched enough of McClain to pass judgement, why do these couple videos now give him enough evidence to do so?

Seems silly to me. I certainly don't agree with Armando, or at least with how he came about with his opinion.

Arm And Oh is an idiot.
Aside from that, he is an idiot.
If he was expecting Lewis or Singletary, was he still expecting him to be there at the 12th pick?
Really?
Oh, and one more thing, he's an idiot :up:

I agree with both of you...it is no secret about the vitriol I have spilled on these forums about Armando....

BUT.

This is my unfiltered assessment of McClain:

His pad level is always high, he is the weakest blitzer on a defense that is designed to free him up, he takes weird angles on very simple reads that most highschool LB's can execute, he has not one signature moment or one game he can point to in his career where he completely dominated. He is not particularly fast. Other than that..he's great.

pretty cool that ud.com is getting the recognition at the Herald too.

I've been pretty steady on McClain as well.

He doesn't have enough of what we should be looking for IMO.

id rather go thomas or olb in first and spikes in the 2nd

"Muck wrote:

I've been pretty steady on McClain as well.

He doesn't have enough of what we should be looking for IMO.

Same here.

I'll add that while those videos are not a highlight reel, it's three games' worth of clips and any play that Rolando made that would qualify as a highlight play is definitely in there. There was nothing excluded. If he was relevant on the play, it's in there.

"Section126 wrote:

I agree with both of you...it is no secret about the vitriol I have spilled on these forums about Armando....

BUT.

This is my unfiltered assessment of McClain:

His pad level is always high, he is the weakest blitzer on a defense that is designed to free him up, he takes weird angles on very simple reads that most highschool LB's can execute, he has not one signature moment or one game he can point to in his career where he completely dominated. He is not particularly fast. Other than that..he's great.

so he is crowder jr.
i am really starting to believe this is the case

Well, I have to admit that after viewing those two videos (especially the second one) I am a little conflicted. Saw some good, some bad, and some ugly plays. After watching the first video I felt like he has a nose for the ball(carrier), and was in on all the plays. Whether he was at the initial point of contact, or cleaning up. Yes, there were a couple of missed tackles, but show me a player that has never whiffed. Happens to the best of 'em. But, in that second video it looked like he took some really bad angles, and he had trouble shedding blocks on several plays. I still think he's a good prospect, and I think he will a good LB at the pro level. Question is how good though? And, is he worth the #12 overall selection? Man, I just dunno. But, it does have me rethinking how I hope we use our first round selection.

Just get someone who will be a stud with the 12th pick. PLEASE!!!!!

We need some stars on this team.We currently have one at left tackle and that is it.
If we do not hit a homerun in this draft the fo days will be numbered.I think mcclain will be agood player but not a star that we need.
We somebody like berry or bryant.

Armando seems to be on his perios this week. Is it me or did he seem a little fiesty?

i wouldnt say that mcclain sucks, by any means, but at the
same time, i do not consider him worthy of the #12 pick.

he got a lot of exposeur being on the alabama team and
they were on tv and in the media constantly. so he got
seen and he got the hype and now he is a runaway train
in draft circles.

i dont think folks have taken notice yet buT OLB has become
far and away a bigger need than ilb. no, we dont have pro
bowlers across the board at ilb, but we have some. we have
squat at olb, a VERY important piece for the 3-4. joey is gone, JT
SHOULD be gone and even if he isnt, he just doesnt have enough game
anymore. so we have cam. he is a good off the bench pass rusher and
thats all we know about him other than he has struggled to set the edge
and stop the run. we absolutely can not rely on just that. we have no
depth at olb either besides needing starters!!

i can see a few more draft sites are coming around to BRANDON GRAHAM
the de/olb from michigan. he would be my choice at this point if we go
defense with #12.

mcclain just belongs more around the 20th pic to me. and YES, i have
seen him play. i LOVE the tide and saw a lot of there games
over the last 2 years.

AT THE #12............

DEZ
BRANDON GRAHAM
EARL THOMAS

McClain, based on what I've seen over three years, is a complete stud of an inside linebacker and a perfect fit for the 3-4 defense. He's the best stack and shed linebacker in this draft. He's got the best instincts of any linebacker that has come to the NFL in a while. The guy anticipates plays as well as Zach Thomas. He's got great size and great strength. What most see as a lack of athleticism is him making things look so easy because he knows where the play is going. He knows how to read his keys. He fights through traffic better than any other linebacker in the draft. He is great in zone coverage.

I would rate him slighly behind Patrick Willis as a prospect overall, but he's clearly better than guys like Jerod Mayo who went 10th and Brian Cushing, this past year's DROY who went 15th.

"KB21 wrote:

McClain, based on what I've seen over three years, is a complete stud of an inside linebacker and a perfect fit for the 3-4 defense. He's the best stack and shed linebacker in this draft. He's got the best instincts of any linebacker that has come to the NFL in a while. The guy anticipates plays as well as Zach Thomas. He's got great size and great strength. What most see as a lack of athleticism is him making things look so easy because he knows where the play is going. He knows how to read his keys. He fights through traffic better than any other linebacker in the draft. He is great in zone coverage.

I would rate him slighly behind Patrick Willis as a prospect overall, but he's clearly better than guys like Jerod Mayo who went 10th and Brian Cushing, this past year's DROY who went 15th.

Well, maybe this is just one of those situation's where you can make anything (or anyone) look good or bad depending on how you present it. You know, creative editing so to speak. Hell...I dunno. Wish I'da seen more of this cat play. But, truth is I don't watch a lot of college ball.

But, I'm gonna take your input and give it a great deal of weight KB21. I've read enough of your posts to feel like you know what you're talking about. Of course, I suppose you could say I wanna believe McClain is that good. Because if he is, then hope we get him. This team needs that kind of a player, and that kind of leadership.

OK, looks like I'm back on the McClain Train. All aboard!

"The G Man wrote:

Well, maybe this is just one of those situation's where you can make anything (or anyone) look good or bad depending on how you present it. You know, creative editing so to speak. Hell...I dunno. Wish I'da seen more of this cat play. But, truth is I don't watch a lot of college ball.

But, I'm gonna take your input and give it a great deal of weight KB21. I've read enough of your posts to feel like you know what you're talking about. Of course, I suppose you could say I wanna believe McClain is that good. Because if he is, then hope we get him. This team needs that kind of a player, and that kind of leadership.

OK, looks like I'm back on the McClain Train. All aboard!

It is my pleasure to show you the light.

"Muck wrote:

I've been pretty steady on McClain as well.

He doesn't have enough of what we should be looking for IMO.

Not at #12 anyway, not for us.

Without better NT play it won't matter who plays ILB.

"KB21 wrote:

It is my pleasure to show you the light.

>mroz< still in the dark when it comes to McClain. :no:

"azfinfanmang wrote:

Arm And Oh is an idiot.
Aside from that, he is an idiot.
If he was expecting Lewis or Singletary, was he still expecting him to be there at the 12th pick?
Really?
Oh, and one more thing, he's an idiot :up:

No one regarded Lewis or Singletary as highly in their draft years as scouts and draftnicks appear to be regarding McClain. Lewis went something like 26th overall and Singletary was a 2nd rounder. Lewis gained a lot of size after entering the NFL. As I recall, at draft time he was about 225 to 230 lbs.

Why the heck would Mandy expect Ro to already look like either of maybe the two best ILBs ever? I think you nailed it, he is an idiot. :knucks:

"mroz wrote:

>mroz< still in the dark when it comes to McClain. :no:

I think McClain is one of those guys who is getting made out to be more than he is. While I don't think much of Armando even a broken clock is right twice a day. I thought it was telling that the Raven's scout in the UD interview in the Sun-sentinel basically said what many of us here have been saying, that McClain is good but not elite and that he wasn't sure about taking McClain at #12.

"SICK wrote:

id rather go thomas or olb in first and spikes in the 2nd

I like the idea of Thomas in the 1st, but IMO, McClain is substantially better than Spikes. I like what Ro shows, but with Spikes I wonder what all the fuss is about. Still, depending on who we sign in free agency and who else is available, Spikes would be a decent choice at 43.

"KB21 wrote:

McClain, based on what I've seen over three years, is a complete stud of an inside linebacker and a perfect fit for the 3-4 defense. He's the best stack and shed linebacker in this draft. He's got the best instincts of any linebacker that has come to the NFL in a while. The guy anticipates plays as well as Zach Thomas. He's got great size and great strength. What most see as a lack of athleticism is him making things look so easy because he knows where the play is going. He knows how to read his keys. He fights through traffic better than any other linebacker in the draft. He is great in zone coverage.

I would rate him slighly behind Patrick Willis as a prospect overall, but he's clearly better than guys like Jerod Mayo who went 10th and Brian Cushing, this past year's DROY who went 15th.

IMO, this is a pretty accurate summation of Rolando. As much as I disagree with Keith about Earl Thomas. I agree with him about Rolando.

i agree i think McClain is overrated i dont think he will suck i think he will be a solid pro with about 3 or 4 pro bowls but IMO as it looks right now he isnt going to be a great NFL LB like Willis or Lewis

I want you Rolando McClain haters to come see me when he wins DROY next year.