http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...-miami-dolphins-score-touchdowns-anymore.html
"The Dolphins are at 15 games and counting under Chad Henne without exceeding the 25 points they scored against the lowly Tampa Bay Bucs last season. This year, their high output is 23."
"The Dolphins have yet to put up a three-touchdown game this year on offense, and their last three-touchdown outburst with Henne actually playing more than a half — Tyler Thigpen led the comeback that helped them put up three TDs against the Steelers in the 2009 finale"
I still say the problem with the Dolphins offense is Henne, but not his arm. It's his feet. He is so flat footed and slow the LB's are all in coverage, and when you have a QB that still insists on throwing the ball with LB's in coverage instead of running for the first down that's a second string QB.
This is why Thigpen came off the bench in a Henne failure and scored so well. The LB's and the DB's had no idea what to expect from him because his feet were live. Henne is a great passer but is one dimensional and dead from the knee down.
They either need to solve this issue with him or replace him with Thiggy. I don't think Thiggy is better than Henne but I think his feet and agility allow us to have a more diverse offense which is what we need. We are doing all we can do with a "stand-still" QB
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Marino did pretty good for a guy that rarely ran with the ball. Just sayin'
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Imagine if Sanchez stood still - what would you have? a loser. -
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I don't think it has anything to do with that. It's all about redzone offense.
First, we can't run the ball as well as we used to. It puts us in long 2nd and goal to go's. Second, we don't do a good enough job of trying to get Brandon Marshall the ball in those situations. The three times I remember, the Vikings game, the Jets game (last drive) and this past game (Steelers), both balls were poorly thrown to Marshall who had single coverage. The first ball, Vikings game was a poorly thrown ball. The second ball, was a play people thought Brandon was gassed, but I think it was still a poorly thrown ball, and third was a back shoulder fade that was a poorly thrown ball--too hard. Those are three Henne mistakes. He has to allow Marshall an opportunity to make the play. He didn't on any of the three pass plays in the redzone. Henne's accuracy in tight spaces is very inconsistent, whereas Pennington's is great. -
I'm not going to name the million QBs that have had a successful, power running game that were much more stationary in the pocket than Chad Henne and Dan Marino.
You don't think it had anything to do with, not caring about a running game from a philosphy standpoint? Or poor RB personnel? Or that the offensive line was better at pass blocking? Any one of a million reasons other than Dan Marino couldn't move and the LB's were waiting for the RB in the hole.Ohio Fanatic, FinSane, SICK and 4 others like this. -
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He has proven that he is a very accurate passer but this offense needs to come to life. An offensive play should conceal itself until it unfolds. This offense is too predictable because as soon as the ball is snapped the defense knows what it is. Henne standing is a pass and Henne crouching is a run. Henne is a LB's delight because he is so easy to read. -
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The main reason is we can't run the ball, combination of poor blocking and poor RB play.
The Marino was to slow to have a running game just had me laughing its so silly. -
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Len Dawson?
Joe Namath?
Bob Griese?
Jim Plunkett?
Phil Simms?
Kurt Warner?
I can go on, the defense is unrested.
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Yes when you have a great QB, you use him more than the running game, it has nothing to do with the fact that he was slow. -
How about hopalong Manning, I mean Peyton Manning? He is an outstanding runner......not
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Marino had 3% interception percentage for his career...
1996 = 2.4%
1997 = 2.0%
1998 = 2.8%
1999 = 4.6%
The reason Marino had a 4.6% in 1999 (his last year) was b/c he hurt his shoulder against NE in game 5. He got pulled after throwing a lame duck interception on his 3rd pass that game. He missed 5 weeks and when he came back he threw "5" against the Cowboys and 12 overall in the final 6 games. He simply did not have the ARM strength and was rushed back into the lineup thinking Marino at far less than 100% was still Miami's best chance of winning.FinSane likes this. -
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I would prefer my qb to stand in the pocket and wait for a play to develop instead of taking off at the first sign of danger
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Roethlisberger - fullback
E. Manning - pocket passer
P. Manning – pocket passer
Roethlisberger again
Brady – pocket passer
Brady again
Johnson – pocket passer
Brady again
Dilfer - pocket passer
Warner - pocket passer
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Chad Henne must become Michael Vick or else.
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This is supposed to be a power running football team and the 0.5 TD/Gm this year from the running back corp is a much greater concern to me than the play of Henne.Colorado Dolfan likes this. -
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Running backs run the ball. Qb's throw the ball. Offensive lineman block for both. No running game has nothing to do with the Qb unless you want to say his handoffs are telegraphed. -
I love stats so I appreciate the article, but I think what Shulaboy is trying to say is that we have a methodical / powerful offense and we could use some deception and speed. I personally like scrambling QB's because you can do more with them but passing QB's are successful as well.
We really could use a speedster to contrast Lou, Ronnie and Ricky. I have no idea why Cobbs is on this team aside from a guest appearance as a so/so KR. I think we should trade Cobbs for some speed and that would make a big difference in our backfield. It's great to have power backs but it's nice to have someone really fast to throw a screen to and have break away speed. I think that is what we are lacking.cobrajet likes this. -
Ok guys, have it your way. Let Henne stand there with the ball and let the whole defense fade into coverage and see how many games we win in this boring predictable offense. The results are staggeringly crappy but by all means have it your way.
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Marino had some of the quickest, fastest feet of any QB that's ever played. It's true that Marino had a lot of great pass blocking O-Lines, but Marino was very elusive in the pocket and that was because of his quick feet. Defenders he played against used to always comment on how hard it was to sack him.
Marino, until his achilles injury, was always near top in the league for having the least sacks. He, when healthy, was also never "interception prone" either. -
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Please stop posting. I'm embarrassed for you. :pity:
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