Here's an interesting article written by Dave Razzano, long time NFL scout who's been a part of 5 SB teams:
http://blog.playmakermobile.com/blog/2011/04/avoid-red-flags-in-first-round-of-nfl-draft.html
IMO this is another reason to stay away from Mallett who, coincidentally, Razzano said would not interest him any round. We need a player with zero concerns who can impact in 2011, not a developmental player under a coach who might not be here a year from now.
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The things that Razzano lists seem to be directly off scouting reports. Legitimate information.finsbuck719 and ToddsPhins like this. -
.......and I won't be surprised one bit if Cam & Fairley end up busting.
In 2003, Andre Johnson, Terrance Newman, Jordan Gross, Kevin Williams, Terrell Suggs, and Troy Polamalu turned out fine in the top 16 if teams would've chosen to heed the "avoid red flags philosophy".
In 2007: I think Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, Darrelle Revis, Lawrence Timmons would've been viable top 15 options without needing to take a red flag guy.
You have an entire draft's worth of talented players and potential probowlers to pick from in the 1st round to where you don't have to risk a high pick on a red flag guy. To clarify, I don't always equate a player being immature as a red flag. For that, it's on a case by case basis. -
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I didn't see that article, but I'll have to look it up. thanks.
I completely agree about the difficulty of sticking to your philosophy. I think the temptation for the risky homerun is a part of human nature; if it weren't, Las Vegas would still be a desert. lol.
I think the great teams over the years are the ones who can consistently withhold temptation and have enough confidence in their ability that they feel they can pass on mega-upside players (with concerns) and still have a successful draft. Conversely, I think teams like Cincinnati, who employ few scouts, feel more pressure to take these risks b/c they've had a recent history of not drafting well. "we suck at drafting, so we might as well go for the homerun". lol. -
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This is why the smartest pick in the first for Miami is Gabe Carimi or Mike Pouncey.
I think Carimi is the better prospect because he offers versatility as a tackle.
Many of the other popular picks in the forum have these so-called red flags:
Mark Ingram (knee), Ryan Mallett (character), Ponder (injury prone), Dalton (unaccustomed to a pro style offense)
I think you start to overlook these things late in the first and I wouldn't pay much attention to them at all in later rounds. You are looking for starters with lottery type odds by then, you go for the highest upside.ToddsPhins likes this. -
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I wouldnt take Mallett because of our fanbase. Its way too harsh on players and coaches. If you draft him and he didnt pan out the fanbase would call for Ireland and Sparano's head. It's better to go with a safe pick like Pouncey. Our fanbase isnt conducive to drafting players like Mallett who will be probably need some time to develop. If Mallett were to play poorly in preseason, our fanbase would call him a bust and if he played well they would be calling for Henne to be benched after one bad game and you would screw up your other QB.
I dont mind Malllett as a pick. I think its 50/50 whether he ends up as the next Flacco or the next Leaf. If you have a fanbase that could deal with a bust I think he would be a worthwhile pick. We dont have that type of fanbaseToddsPhins and GMJohnson like this. -
I posted this on the Kirwin thread about Mallett, its an interview from pary way through the year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFZpICtCE_w&NR=1
After hearing this (he seems to NATURALLY be hunble yet confident with all the answers) and hearing CK on his interview I have come full circle on the QB situation. No doubt he has all the physical tools, but it seems he has the attitude correct to. Not to mention a red flag on a #13. Anyone know how Mallett scored on the Wonderlic Test? -
IMO Mallett's height should be a MAJOR red flag.
How many 6'7 QBs do we see become successful in the NFL?
After a certain point, height can become a liability because longer legs means a longer time to get set and squared-up to your target....... and a longer arm means more time needed to progress through your delivery from point A to point B. In a league where the action is faster rather than slower, this can become more pronounced and pose some serious problems, especially during a 16 game season where every week has ramifications.
Sure, Mallett could probably light up weaker defenses when faced with little pressure and/or poor coverage, but I question his ability when it counts the most--- in big games when the pressure is on and defenses are bearing down on him. -
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I don't have an issue with Mallett's height. I don't have an issue with his delivery either. What I do have an issue with him is his lack of mobility, his issues with pressures and his long stride. Some won't agree with me but that's the issues that I see with him. He reminds me of Flacco to an extent, except I feel that Flacco is a bit clumsier; he lacks coordination it seems like. Mallett's also got some Drew Bledsoe in him, who I was not a fan of. The main reasons I didn't like Bledsoe was that he was a statue and he went for the deep ball too much, which he paid for.
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uhhh, I was kinda referring to the women you joke about liking. lol.
Man, I can't believe you didn't get that. You completely ruined my joke. :lol:MrClean likes this.
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