Ginn has shown so little, if we were not in the playoff chase I'd love to see Turner activated along with Tristan Davis the kick returner for the last game against the Steelers and Ginn deactivated.

 

Garner was a starter over Thomas. Gardner was inactive.

 

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I like Zod's point, but, truth is, as far as bringing in talent that was capable of starting is also a barometer of how bad we really were.
I do like the talent we have accrued, and I whole-heartedly believe we have some really special things going on, but there are many many things to consider when determining wht IMO :yes:

 

I agree with this. We have brought in some talent, and it's the kind of talent that shows exactly what was wrong with the Saban/Cameron way of doing things. We've now got some big, physical players that hit hard and play tough.

It's not all through the draft either - we've made some good decisions in free agency too. That being said, we've had some real stinkers. Unless its Ware, I don't think they should be allowed to sign anyone with a last name that starts with a W.

Overall I think that the front office is doing an alright job getting this team players that raise the overall level of talent and give us a chance to be competitive with some of the tougher teams out there. I'll get more into some specifics in a couple of weeks when I've got some final numbers to work with.

 

Gotta disagree. I think Cameron Wake is going to be a VERY solid contributor for us :up:
One thing I see more and more is this FO is going after certain types of players-physically and mentally TOUGH (Ginn is gone before next year).
I also think when a few more key-pieces are in place, we will not be competitive for a single year.....
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We will be competitive for several consecutive years and will be very very deep 53 players deep...
That is becoming more and more evident with every unfortunate injury we suffer. :yes:

 

Man, how cool would it be to finally see Turner on the field and making plays for this team in the last two games? He could still be a difference maker this season. Or, is that just wishful thinking on my part?

 

Johnson was great on drafting defense. Wannstedt was horrible. The only reason I didn't include him was because so many players from that time are out of football one way or the other now, and not just the godawful picks that were made then.

Wake is one of the stranger decisions I've seen the staff make. By the numbers, he's had the most impact of any pass rusher in the NFL this year, but he is still having problems getting on the field. Personally, I think Wake is great but the staff is not working hard enough to find ways to get him involved. Therefore, the Wake thing is pretty much up in the air at this point. If he can make the jump to LB it's a great thing, otherwise we'll continue to talk about him every week, wondering why we don't see more of him.

 

I wanted to correct a small error Devon Bess was no drafted by Miami or any other team he was invited for a tryout and made the team.

 

You and I agree on this, HOWEVER, even if he remains a situational type player, he is still an over-turned Gem IMO.

 

True, I mean, the reason we're talking about him is because he's doing a great job out there. He's definitely earning his paycheck.

 

True, but at the same time, its always good to have a guy you can put on the field in obvious pass rushing situations.

 

I am encouraged by the production from the young players on the team. However, we need desperately to have another draft just as good this year to fill the holes we have to fill in order to become a top-tier team. If we can pick up a starting #1 WR, at least one starting LB and a starting safety in this draft, and pick up some backups in free agency, we can take this damned division.

 

And IF he can learn to become an everydown player at the same level he is on, that really really opens up our off-season moves quite radically.
Honestly, Cam Wake is actually what many had projected Vern Ghoulston would become.....cept Wake actually has talent....and desire :yes:

 

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I have to add, Camarillo is also an UDFA :yes:

 

Well, there was Welker, but that conversation has been had. Let us speak no more of it.

 

lol that video zod posted about turner "he wont be drafted earlier than the 4th round"


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I wonder how Ginn would have turned out, had he gotten the same treatment as Turner...