I agree!

 

Meh Gase is no Shula and his play calling. Leaves a lot to be desired

 

No one is making that comparison, that would be blasphemous.

 

I do agree with ignoring talent and promoting or moving people out with attitude issues. I think he is walking a very fine line though, each time he throws his team under the bus. I like a coach to be straightforward, but at times Gase is just venting, almost whining about his team. I hope that isn't his undoing because he has a lot of positives going for him. I like his intensity.

 

Well, I won't lie, I'm about as pessimistic, jaded and cynical as a fan can be, haha, so I tend to take that kind of rah rah stuff with a grain of salt.

I like Gase. I like his vibe. I dig his charisma. I think he can be a players' coach but he's also someone who can probably hold his guys accountable. He's been around veteran coaches like John Fox and he's been around quality players.

That all sounds a bit like Mike Tomlin to me. I wonder why that comparison hasn't been made because now that it's dawned on me I think it fits.

But there's still a whole heck of a lot Miami needs to get corrected before we start patting anyone on the back. The roster is questionable. The entire offense might be blown up this off-season. We might lose our star WR. Tannehill may not even be the right QB for the team in the long run.

Point is, there's A LONG way to go. Miami is far from being where they want to be and quite frankly, we're still in the honeymoon phase with our new HC so keep that in mind.

I said early in the Philbin days that a coach shouldn't be questioned early on. You need to let him implement his strategy. Not until it's 100% clear that the strategy is insufficient should you bail. But you should commit.

Like the author, I agree that Gase has an air of legitimacy about him. I hope the franchise can get behind that.

 

Even Belichick with 270 wins isn't in the same league as the Don.

 

I disagree. The top 3 coaches for me in the SB era (so leaving Lombardi out because most of what he did was before that) are Shula, Belichick and Walsh in no particular order. Shula because of total wins (347), 2 SB's and that perfect season, Belichick because of 5 SB's (most in the SB era) and the fact he's doing this under a salary cap, and Walsh because he revolutionized the game with the West Coast offense and won 3 SB's with it.

Not sure when Belichick will retire, but if he keeps up his winning ways he'll need about 7 more ~12-win seasons (including 2017) to match the win total by Shula. I'm guessing he'll retire before that happens, but 5 SB's in the salary cap era? Yeah that for me puts him in the upper-most class of NFL coaches in history.

 

Do you use that mouth to kiss your mother boy?!

There is no Shula but Shula and there shall be no other Shula's for eternity.

But for every reaction equal and opposite yada yada, ying & yang and all....

Bellycheat is the perfect satanic anti hero. Somehow having enough success to make us doubt the Shula. More championships bought by evil doings. But when perfection was in the fallen ones reach...He could NOT GRASP IT!!! It slipped away from his slimy cheating bony little fingers! ( We all know bad guys have tiny hands! And bad hair!)

There is ONLY ONE PERFECT LEADER! And he is the ShulA!!!!

 

18-0 NE losing to the Giants so that the '72 Dolphins remained the ONLY perfect team was for me the best moment in 21st century NFL history. And that helmet catch was for me the greatest catch ever.

 

Honestly, Gase has never thrown his guys under the bus, the one time he did call them out he backed up his words, traded Ajayi and the offense actually got better.

Not sure where this "Gase throws guys under the bus" thing is coming from.

 

I like the coaches who don't lose and cause us to embarrass ourselves on national television (last year TNF, England shutout, Ravens TNF shutout, Raiders). When he becomes that coach.... I still blame him and Tannenbum for T-hill not having the surgery last year. It's a pretty easy conversation.

Gase: Hey Ryan, we think you should have the surgery on your knee so it's fixed.
T-Hill: Well coach, I'd like to spend the summer rubbing unicorn **** on it and having a pixie fart on it. I think that'll make it better. I talked to Ricky Williams and he said it would.
Gase: We need you to have the surgery...
T-Hill: I don't want to have the surgery Coach.
Gase: Ok Ryan. Here's Bob. Bob has a box.
T-Hill: Hi Bob. A box coach? What do I do with a box?
Gase: Open your locker and put your stuff in it because if you won't have the surgery we don't need you.
T:Hill: You're firing me Coach?
Gase: Yes. We are prepared to eat your contract and pretend instead of having you in limp mode that we spent it on midget strippers named Simone that could fart glittering unicorn horns. We feel that's a better business decision memory for us to install in our heads than the disaster you without surgery will bring us.
T-Hill. Ok coach, you talked me into it. I'll have the surgery.
Gase: We're Superbowl bound! See you in Minneapolis in February!

 

if this had happened, I agree. We'd be sitting prettier. But I will add this, Having Tannehill back after surgery last Nov, should have still pushed us to draft a qb this year. Miami cannot continue to gamble, pull the trigger in April

 

I agree. We need to be drafting a QB like every year until we have a barn burner. T-Hill has promise but he's had a helluva long ramp up......

 

Tannehill would have still missed this season. It's 12 month recovery time and we lost him late in the year. Whether he got it last year or this really didn't change anything

 

If that's the case why not make him have it and go into this year with a better QB plan as opposed to counting on T-hill all the way into mid August....

 

I must be reading the stats wrong, I swear Gace's O in LAST in the league right now, and Gace was supposed to be an O guru, seems many are just use to sucking and because they wear a Dolphin uniform that makes them good.

 

It's true we are last with 14.5 ppg on offense. So here's a goal for tonight: score 28 points so that we can just barely beat out the legendary Cleveland Browns and improve to 2nd worst on offense! (we'd have 16 ppg if we score 28 points)

One step at a time haha.

btw.. things can change quite a lot over half a season. We used to be top 5 in defense early in the season, but now are average rank. Same with Buffalo who were #1 in defense, but are now 15th.

So let's wait till the end of the season before crucifying Gase. He does seem better at making adjustments than some previous coaches we've had so there's at least SOME hope lol.

 

Lol...your right...hes far from a Shula..who leads the NFL with 347 Wins in his career. No other coach is Don Shula. Making Don Shula your benchmark is just as stupid as making Dan Marino your benchmark.

 

Because having surgery on your knee is not always the best route to take....

 

This attitude/perspective on the part of Gase is one necessary ingredient in being a successful/great coach. So for that reason I'm glad to see it.

Whether or not he has the other ingredients to complete the mixture is another question. He's supposed to be very intelligent with a strong grasp of the game and we've also heard a lot about him being liked by the team.

Both of those are useful, however, the questions about those, the flip-sides of those characteristics, are 1) is he too theoretical with ideas doomed to fail in reality, 2) is he unable to adjust his thinking to account for the talent he has, 3) how deep do the disagreements run within the roster and does that mean the players lack respect for him?

Leadership is hard. Putting all the pieces together is something of an art. Gase seems like he has all the tools he needs, but can he make it work, or will it be a failed experiment?

 

If it had healed naturally we would have had him for the entire season. Surgery guaranteed he would miss this season. Was worth a shot. Plus it's better to heal naturally rather than surgically

 

Uh. Evidently not. Boatloads of reports said that it would always be a partial tear. Ligaments don't heal on their own. If they are torn they stay torn. So the plan was to have our QB AKA the most sacked QB in league history in his first X years behind a line we hadn't spent any money on to fix was going to somehow not get hit in a way to hurt the knee that got injured by a defender penetrating our crap line and hitting it....yeah sounds like a freaking brilliant plan. Was a fluke it didn't work out obviously.

 

His team went to the playoffs last year. It seems he made something out of what many on this forum said was a crappy team. We are where we were at the same point in this season as we were last year. So just where does your script account for that?

 

You do understand that the ACL tear Tannehill suffered this year, was unrelated to that of last year, right? Regardless of him having surgery or not last year, he would have torn the ACL again this year. So, there's not a need for this hypothetical conversation. Although, it sure as heck would have been interesting to hear. :lol:

 

No Dr. Morreau. That is incorrect. Had he had the surgery he wouldn't have been out there to get hit. We also would have had a better plan for QB. Maybe it would've been Cutler with a whole TC who knows.

 

that's the key. having coverage. I would have had him do the surgery and drafted a qb. Good teams do this

 

great point. there was no plan, it was wait, pray and see. you don't run your team like that. Miami lacked in preparation. AND, their offensive line broke down RT last year, got Moore killed in Pitt and they still didn't fix the line. It even cost them the ribs of Cutler this year

 

Wait.. why do you say that? If I remember correctly it was the SAME ACL that was injured and I haven't heard anyone that examined it come out and say the initial ACL sprain was fully healed by training camp.

 

The Pats got embarrassed this year on Thursday night football. IJS

 

he hurt it again because it wasn't fixed the first damn time

 

yeah but wasn't that the first game? They had more than 4 days to prepare

 

Wrong

 

dan, I think he's right. it was thought through stem cell it would be repaired. from what I understood, it wasn't gonna heal on its own

 

how did you conclude this? He had a brace for Christ sake. HE TORE IS ACL. USUALLY PEOPLE HAVE SURGERIES. Miami and RT were the only clowns in town to think otherwise. Has there been anyone recently that healed from an ACL w/o surgery?

 

agreed it was Miami and RT fault to not have the surgery last yr, if he would have had it right away he could have made the start of the yr it made no sense to me besides RT was scared of his job I dunno though.

 

He's not right. Ligaments* can heal on their own.

Here's the thing. New studies are showing that not having surgery for certain types on ACL tears are just as good without the associated risks of surgery. RT was advised by some of the fields top surgeons to NOT have surgery. Having surgery would not have guaranteed that he wouldn't have reinjured the knee on the play that led to him reinjuring himself.

 

tendon or ligament?

 

Many patients with a torn ACL -- the ligament that stabilizes the knee -- may avoid surgery by delaying the operation and first giving physical therapy a try.

One of the most feared sports and work injuries is a torn anterior cruciate ligament or ACL. It's the tough piece of tissue that keeps the knee from bending sideways when you plant your foot and pivot.

Nobody is exactly sure of the best way to treat a torn ACL. Yet every year, at least 200,000 Americans undergo ACL reconstruction, in which the ACL is restored with tendon grafts. Most patients undergo this surgery soon after their injury.

But that may not be the best strategy for everyone, suggests a clinical trial by physiotherapist Richard B. Frobell, PhD, of Sweden's Lund University, and colleagues.


https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/knee-pain/news/20100721/torn-acl-may-heal-without-surgery#1