Ben Volin: Dolphins carrying $10.4 million in dead money for 2013

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Jt0323Jt0323moderatorOP
Mar 12, 2013, 10:00 PM

#Dolphins are now carrying $10.4 million in dead money for 2013, with $4.65m on Dansby, $2.5m on Burnett, $1.6m on Long, $1.1m on Vontae

ToddPhinToddPhinluxury_box
Mar 12, 2013, 10:03 PM

How are we carrying dead money on Jake?

Nappy RootsNappy Rootsforum_veteran
Mar 12, 2013, 10:03 PM

gez. could of just moved Dansby to Sam and cut Misi...

MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Mar 12, 2013, 10:03 PM

Wish I had $10 millie in dead money

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Mar 12, 2013, 10:04 PM

Dead money doesnt count agains the cap tho right? That's just the dead contract that they have to pay out, but it doesn't actually impact the cap.
Am I understanding this correctly?

NJFINSFAN1NJFINSFAN1luxury_box
Mar 12, 2013, 10:04 PM

I don't see how we have dead money on Long, his contract is done.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Mar 12, 2013, 10:06 PM

"TiP54 wrote:

Dead money doesnt count agains the cap tho right? That's just the dead contract that they have to pay out, but it doesn't actually impact the cap.
Am I understanding this correctly?

Yes it counts towards the cap.

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

GridIronKing34GridIronKing34forum_veteran
Mar 12, 2013, 10:06 PM

Jake Long voided the final year of his rookie contract... thus the dead cap.

I think dead cap counts against our salary cap too.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Mar 12, 2013, 10:07 PM

"Stitches wrote:

Yes it counts towards the cap.

Well damn.

surferosasurferosaNew Member
Mar 12, 2013, 10:07 PM

"TiP54 wrote:

Dead money doesnt count agains the cap tho right? That's just the dead contract that they have to pay out, but it doesn't actually impact the cap.
Am I understanding this correctly?

Ben Volin ‏@BenVolinPBP
So the #Dolphins actually gained $800k in cap space by cutting Burnett and adding Wheeler. Only one it hurt was Stephen Ross' wallet

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Mar 12, 2013, 10:07 PM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

I don't see how we have dead money on Long, his contract is done.

There was an accelerated bonus three or so years ago that was to be paid out over x number of years (including this season).

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

Jt0323Jt0323moderator
Mar 12, 2013, 10:08 PM

yeah I don't understand the long dead money either...

Jt0323Jt0323moderator
Mar 12, 2013, 10:08 PM

So basically we are going to have a cap issue next season?

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Mar 12, 2013, 10:10 PM

"Jt0323 wrote:

So basically we are going to have a cap issue next season?

No we only had about 77 M on the books before this frenzy.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Mar 12, 2013, 10:11 PM

"Jt0323 wrote:

So basically we are going to have a cap issue next season?

As of right now, we'll have a good bit of cap room next year also, but similarly to this year we'll have like 5 or 6 starters with an expiring contract.

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

SamphinSamphinNew Member
Mar 12, 2013, 10:11 PM

So we will have 10.4 million in cap room awaiting us next year.

Jt0323Jt0323moderator
Mar 12, 2013, 10:11 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

No we only had about 77 M on the books before this frenzy.

Well that makes me feel a lot better!

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Mar 12, 2013, 10:14 PM

"Samphin wrote:

So we will have 10.4 million in cap room awaiting us next year.

We should, yes. Just as if someone's contract were up, only on this instance the player is already long gone.

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

SamphinSamphinNew Member
Mar 12, 2013, 10:16 PM

"Stitches wrote:

We should, yes. Just as if someone's contract were up, only on this instance the player is already long gone.

...it wasn't a question or me seeking affirmation. I was merely responding to the original headline of the dead cap. I all comes off after next year and thus, cap space.

Don't treat me like a newb!

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Mar 12, 2013, 10:29 PM

"phinsational wrote:

How are we carrying dead money on Jake?

Yeah, he's a FA how does that work?

SamphinSamphinNew Member
Mar 12, 2013, 10:45 PM

"Conuficus wrote:

Yeah, he's a FA how does that work?

He voided the final year of his rookie deal, apparently we get dinged for that.

ADAdamC13New Member
Mar 12, 2013, 10:47 PM

"Samphin wrote:

...it wasn't a question or me seeking affirmation. I was merely responding to the original headline of the dead cap. I all comes off after next year and thus, cap space.

Don't treat me like a newb!

Not necessarily true Miami automatically gets an additional $10.4 in cap space next year. Ireland/FO may be setting up contracts so the players being signed take a bigger cap hit next year than this year. It only means Miami is carrying $10.4 million in dead money this year.

SamphinSamphinNew Member
Mar 12, 2013, 10:52 PM

"AdamC13 wrote:

Not necessarily true Miami automatically gets an additional $10.4 in cap space next year. Ireland/FO may be setting up contracts so the players being signed take a bigger cap hit next year than this year. It only means Miami is carrying $10.4 million in dead money this year.

We aren't going to roll THAT deep though. For argument's sake, the accelrated bonuses of the aforementioned players are attached to this year's cap and roll off next year. Any contracts that are signed that may eat that room isn't being discussed for now.

fragsfragsNew Member
Mar 12, 2013, 11:08 PM

"Stitches wrote:

As of right now, we'll have a good bit of cap room next year also, but similarly to this year we'll have like 5 or 6 starters with an expiring contract.

Principally Soliai. With how deep this draft is at DL, I would not be surprised if Lotulelei was in play at #12. Him or Warmack would be great imo. Though, Austin is in play either at #12 or a tradeup into 1R.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Mar 12, 2013, 11:15 PM

By cutting Dansby and Burnett and eating the cap hit now, it freed up a good chunk of money next year, as their cap hits would have been a combined 16-17 million. Now, we gain that with no dead money offset in 2014. Ellerbe and Wheeler are unlikely to count that much next season, so its a win for us in that we replaced them with younger, better and cheaper players, and solved what was going to be a hole ahead of time. Win!

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