Jake Long

 

Demarcus Ware

 

Tannehill will be his best pick.

 

Hartline

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Maybe Matthews , otherwise Hartline with the regression Jones

 

Hartline isn't exactly tearing it up this year either.

 

Right now: Mike Pouncey

In 2 years: Dion Jordan and Ryan Tannehill.

He will be LONG gone by the time those two hit their stride.

 

Eventually I think it will be Dion...for value..Rishard Matthews...

 

Agreed , but he has been better than Jones imo , and the whole oline fiasco has to be taken in to consideration .

Wasn't the question and not to derail this but the lack of elite difference makers is a big part of this imo.

 

I think this was meant to not include high picks , but I may be wrong.

 

That was Parcells, according to posts on the board.

 

He's tearing up the grass as his feet slip out from under him.

 

These guys are in the top 10 at their position on PFF.


5 Long
7 Pouncey
7 Tannehill
9 Clemmons
9 Davis

 

PFF has Ryan Tannehill the 7th best QB in the NFL?

 

they have just lost all credibility.

 

Mike Pouncey. When your best draft pick is one of your least important players on your team, you have a problem.

 

Apparently they think < 3 seconds to throw the ball is a liability.

 

Pouncy, as has been asserted over & over, Ireland was the coffee boy prior to the 2011 draft.

 

hmmm... this season - there's also Don Jones. Reserve Safety... Special teams. 7th round pick... 7 tackles and 2 FF on the season.

Sturgis has his moments. Jordan will be eventually if they ever figure out he's better than OV.

The others we'll find out about in the next couple seasons.

 

He wasn't the GM of that team. Jerry Jones was.

 

It still was funny :)

 

Probably the only pro bowler he ever drafted, Jake Long.

 

Hartline was an alternate. Mike should have made it last season.

 

Langford

 

Entirely different draft pick , would you use the number one pick overall on him in retrospect?

 

Hartline was like a 5th alternate, sorry a handful of receivers didn't drop out so he could make it. If he was a pro bowl receiver we wouldn't have given another guy a $60 million contract.

 

True, but Jones and Ireland had to talk Parcells back from the ledge because Parcells needed assurance Spears would be there for their 2nd 1st rounder. Once he was assured Spears would still be there, Parcells wanted Merriman, and Jones and Ireland were on team Ware. So he wasn't GM but at least he identified the right guy.

 

I dont care to give him any props right now.

When will they tell us he's fired?

Come on Dolphins, you're on the clock. Turn in your card.




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Always worthy of a good laugh, your posts.

 

Yup. They gave him a +4.0 for the TB game, his second best rating of the year, after Baltimore.

 

I know this for a fact.

All three of the men in question crowed about the wisdom of it afterward. Jerry Jones said he saw another Charles Haley. Bill Parcells said he saw another Lawrence Taylor. Jeff Ireland said he saw another Derrick Thomas.

So before we start spinning our wheels and creating "known facts" out of what is really just rumor and innuendo about who wanted what, etc...let's start with the known facts. Bill Parcells loved the pick and thought Demarcus Ware would be another Lawrence Taylor. "Every player you take should remind you of a player you've coached before" he said afterward, and Ware reminded him strongly of LT.

 

Bill Parcells wanted Marcus Spears there. So I dont care what Parcells says, his actions at the time were different. Ireland actually got that one right.

 

Best Ireland pick as a Dolphin GM: Mike Pouncey. That is until Tannehill becomes the pro bowl QB I expect him to be.

 

There's no way that can be true. off the top of my head. Manning. Rodgers. Rivers. Wilson. Cutler. Stafford. Brees. Brady. Then you have to start going Luck. Romo. Foles. Newton. I don't think Tannehill comes in until around 16th in the league (advanced stats or traditional stats). There's no way he is 7th. Has to by a typo.Best Ireland pick. Vontae Davis?How many pro bowlers has he drafted? 1? Long?

 

Jake Long was the best pick, even if he was 1 overall. Multiple Pro Bowls, absolutely nasty at this position. You can't fault a GM for a guy getting injured.

 

Agree with your point, but have to disagree with Parcells bolded viewpoint.

So if you discover something you haven't had before as a coach, you shouldn't draft it? That's just limited, parochial, and jurassic thinking. So it verifies that Parcells definitely said it.

 

Based on?