http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000079254/article/brian-hartline-more-than-a-deceptively-fast-dolphin?module=HP11_headline_stack
Nope. Just plain fast.
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Where did 'African-American' come from?
I can;t believe NFL.com keeps implying Asians cannot run as fast as Inuit people.MikeHoncho, mbsinmisc, SICK and 5 others like this. -
His history as a hurdler is something that's been touted as evidence of his speed, yet here are the specifics of that history:
When you deconstruct the non-specific label "champion hurdler" and get this, it's not real reassuring of his speed IMO. I mean obviously he's not slow, but we're talking about having rare speed even among people who have rare speed -- NFL wide receivers -- and this hurdling history isn't anywhere near evidence of that IMO. -
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Well there is track speed and there is game speed. Totally different things in my opinion.
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Don't forget that all white D-linemen have a "high motor". That's not to say the scouts don't sometimes say black D-linemen have "high motors" as well. However, every single time a scout talks/writes about a white D-lineman, you can bet he's gonna say the dude's got a "high motor".
Yes, racism exists.Bpk, dolfan7171, ToddPhin and 4 others like this. -
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Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member
He ran a 4.58 in the combine. I don't see how he can be regarded as fast. But, he can get open by running good routes, with a good burst out of a cut, as Wes Welker can, and he's tall at 6'2 so that gives him some advantage when he gets to full speed (as Jerry Rice did - once he got going in his prime - no one would catch him).
I don't really care as long as he keeps making plays.mbsinmisc and dolfan7171 like this. -
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Either way, we're an awful long way from Willie Gault, here. -
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Also, B1G? Ha. It's all about ESSSSSSSSEEEEEEEESEEEEEEEE SPEED.
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"He runs good routes"
"He is smart"
"He has alot of heart and passion for the game"
and my personal favorite
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Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member
Ya know, I've seen those statements over the years and never once did I think "Oh, this guy is [whatever] race". Where do you guys get this from ??
Right now, he's the leading yardage WR in the NFL this season. I do wish he were the leading TD maker, but I'll take whatever he can give us for now...
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Now, "Willie Gault" level, no question.
The take-home message is that Hartline's specific history as a hurdler, in itself, doesn't establish him as anything significant speed-wise in comparison to the average NFL wide receiver, so I think we should stop throwing that around as evidence of such.mbsinmisc likes this. -
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In that scenario Hartline may still very well be the go-to guy in terms of number of targets and receptions, similar to how Tim Brown was that guy opposite James Jett for the Raiders, and he may therefore for all intents and purposes remain the "number one" guy. However, I think there needs to be more speed out there as a threat if nothing else. The guy with elite deep speed doesn't necessarily have to be the "number one" receiver.mbsinmisc likes this. -
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What about simply adding another player of the caliber of Bess or Hart?
Having three payers of that caliber on the field, or two and some measureables? -
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Give me three 6'2 1/2" WR's who run 4.52, good routes, good cuts, decent hands and I'll show you a defense that's ****ed.
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