Brian Hartline can't be a star because his 4.52 is was slower than many wide receivers in the league in that same range, he was drafted in the 4th round so his yardage and production only counts for half and he doesn't have nearly the attitude or off the field issues people require to take him seriously as a wide receiver.

 

Because he's not 6-4, 225 pounds with a 45 inch vertical and 4.35 40 speed.

 

I would rather go with Hartline then Edwards. I dont believe that Hartline only dropped 4 balls however. I think I remember more. Either way we are fine there.

 

I dont know if he can be a star but he certainly is a more than reliable 3rd option. He is a guy who should consistently have at least 500-750 yrds recieving and 3-6 Tds a season.

 

His trash talking and taunting is not good enough.

 

Maybe the DBs cut him some slack b/c they were more focused on Bess and Marshall. Just sayin.

 

If only we had a better QB to take advantage of that.

 

He's faster than Jerry Rice was. Speed is not the be all end all. He has way better hands than Edwards. I'm more than happy with him as a 3rd option.

 

That ship seems to have sailed. Unless Henne improves somehow.

 

Because he's too cornbread. Don't be afraid to say it because you know its true.

 

Remember that game 2 years ago against TN? It was his rookie season. Henne underthrew 82 on a deep ball and Hartline had the mental and physical ability to strip the ball away from the DB that had basically picked it off. It was one of the most exciting plays of the season for me.

Give Hartline a break, the dude is a threat and until he's beat out on the field.... hes a solid WR in the NFL.

 

I don't think you should really be dignifying the people who think Brian Hartline is slow with any sort of halfway serious response.

 

i think he is a solid WR ... not special and average height.

he is not Welker .... more like Camarillo or somewhere in between. would like to see him in the slot - but Bess is there and we don't have another legitimate outside threat yet.

Gates will replace him on the outside - but not likely this year .... i think Brian would excel in a 'Welkeresque' role, but won't get a chance to unless we find another legitimate outside option.

If we signed anyone -- i would prefer Moss to go on the outside ... Marshall, Bess, Hartline and Moss would be a very tough 4 WR set.

 

I don't find that adding a big money #2 WR improves your offense much even if it's an upgrade. I'm going just by memory but I can't think of a time that a team had a #1 WR then brought in that big name #2 guy and had a big jump. Maybe it'll happen with Atlanta this year. They have a great #1 in White and IMO Jones has the talent to be a best in the league type.

I do find that bringing in complementary talents result in big offensive improvements. For example it you have a possession guy and you bring in a speed guy or if you have outside receivers and bring in a receiving TE that works the middle.

 

hartline is a very solid player.


but im getting really tired of "solid" being the best i can say about any of our players.

And this thread is a perfect example of the BS Henne has to deal with. I've seen Hartline drop just as many passes that hennes put in his hands as Hennes missed throws. Yet hartline gets the free-pass, and henne gets the rod.

 

Hartline's sole problem is he has not stayed healthy, otherwise I have no complaints about his game, maybe he should return kickoffs but otherwise..

 

How'd he do the week before vs Chicago or the week after vs Cleveland? Has he ever made a big play or drawn a double team in his career? His claim to fame is 33 yds vs Nnamdi and his bad ankle? I'm not understanding why this guy's position is supposed to be "safe".

 

I think hes gonna beat for his starting position by Bess, which is fine they all get good reps, But does anyone have him over bess in the starting lineup?

 

Did anyone do anything vs Chicago? Thigpen was his QB and he was running for his life the entire game.

Hartline would have had a huge game vs Cleveland had Henne thrown at least a decent pass to him when he blew past Haden. Unfortunately, Henne threw a pick.

It's amazing the type of BS you give Hartline while giving Henne a free pass for everything. Hartline has proven to be a good NFL player and he's just fine as our number 2.

 

Do fumbles count? If so, see Pittsburgh Week 7.

 

*sarcasmmodeon* :shifty:

 

its a wash for me who starts, they will get both lots of snaps

 

I admit that i havent watched every game twice, but i do remember a specific drop that would have been a 30-40 yard play. The CB made a good play on the ball after it got to Hartlines hands but a great wr would have caught it. I wanna say in the Tennessee game but im not sure.

I just remember saying "So Sanchez' wr will literally hobble around the field making plays for him and our guys won't even catch the ones that hit their hands."

 

If Henne was more accurate he would have a great game against Cleveland

 

You seem to be crediting Hartline for his good games and blaming his QBs for the bad games.

What would you say are the strengths and weaknesses of Hartline's game? What makes him better than most NFL WRs in your view? Because I don't see it.

 

i don't give henne a free pass for anything, and i think people are getting me and GMjohnson mixed up, which is fine i guess since we're agreeing on the topic. But no, henne gets no free passes, but are you seriously saying these wrs (Im saying ALL of them, even the beast) have caught every ball, made ever play they possibly can? (Ok, bess doesn't count, but the rest!)

The unit overall didn't do Henne much favors last season. I realize henne didnt do them any either but they left plays on the field. Hell, Marshall once dropped a pass that bounced off his hands into Ed Reeds.

And hartline was part of that.

 

LMAO. How predictable. Everyone remembers that play and no one remembers the post pattern in the end zone that Hartline barely even tried for. Or the throwback pass in the Cincinnati game, there was nothing wrong w/ Henne's accuracy on that play.

 

No, I'm giving Hartine credit for being a good NFL player playing with a bad NFL Qb.

 

Technique, quickness, agility, intelligence, route running, reading a defense, there is plenty to like about Hartline.

 

Are you sure? I remember a flea flicker in the Tennessee game that went for at least 30 yds. I may have forgotten about that play if I had only watched our games twice :tongue2:.

And naming Hartline as our best offensive player in any week is absurd. Marshall comes to mind, Bess, we have a pretty good LT as well.

I ask again, how many double teams does Hartline draw? How many plays does he make?

 

Yes, we've established that.

Would you care to elaborate on why you feel Hartline is a good WR? What is it that he's good at?