ok guys, just wondering if you could take any player at any point of there career and have them make your ALL TIME DOLPHINS Squad who would be on that team?
make a team of al 53 players.
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This is half who i think was the best and half who i liked the most
QB(3)
1. Dan Marino
2. Bob Griese
3. David Woodley
RB(4)
1. Mercury Morris
2. Ronnie Brown
3. Jim Kiick
4. Ricky Williams
FB(1)
1. Larry Csonka
WR(6)
1. Mark Clayton
2. Mark Duper
3. Oronde Gadsden
4. Paul Warfield
5. Nate Moore
6. OJ McDuffie
TE(3)
1. Randy McMichael
2. Jim Jensen
3. Keith Jackson
OL(9)
1. Dwight Stevenson
2. Jim Langer
3. Larry Little
4. Bob Kuechenberg
5. Richmond Webb
6. Tim Ruddy
7. Keith Sims
8. Samson Satele
9. Vernon Carey
DE(5)
1. Jason Taylor
2. Trace Armstrong
3. Adewale Ogunleye
4. Kim BoKamper
5. Kevin Carter
DT(3)
1. Manny Fernandez
2. Tim Bowens
3. Daryl Gardner
LB(7)
1. Zach Thomas
2. Nick Bounocoti
3. Joey Porter
4. John Offerdahl
5. Bryan Cox
6. Channing Crowder
7. Morlon Greenwood
CB(5)
1. Patrick Surtain
2. Sam Madison
3. Will Allen
4. Terrell Buckley
5. Paul Lankford
S(4)
1. Brock Marion
2. Jason Allen
3. Jake Scott
4. Louis Oliver
K(2)
1. Garo Yepremian
2. Pete Stoyanovich
P(1)
1. Reggie RobyLast edited: Mar 26, 2008 -
forogt about louis oliver
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Well when i was looking over the players i could put there i figure allen has just as much talent as anyone i would put there. Plus i really like Jason Allen, Same goes with Channing n Morlon, i know they aren't that good but both are plyares i really like
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QB- Marino(duh!)
RB- R.Williams
FB- L.Csonka
WR- M.Clayton
WR- C.Chambers
TE- K.Byars
T- Webb
G- L.Little
C- D.Stephenson
G- J. Langer
T- J.Geisler
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DE- J. Taylor
DT- T. Bowens
DT- D.Gardener
DE- T. Armstrong
LB- Z.Thomas
LB- N.Bouniconti
LB- AJ Duhe
CB- P.Surtain
CB- S. Madison
S- Dick Anderson
S- J.Scott
K- P.Stoyanovich
P- R.Roby
KR/PR- Ted Ginn
Coach- Dave Wanstadt!!!!!!!!!!!!! :tongue2:
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hey guys thats HIS all times.. if you dont agree with it.. post yours.. there is not right or wrong answers here..
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i wasn't taking a **** on his list...its a good list for the most part IMO....I was only disagreeing with a few who would not be on my list....
Like I said I'd have Oliver and WIlliams in place of Allen. My list would pretty much lok the same as his. -
very nice....
LB- Z.Thomas
LB- N.Bouniconti
LB- AJ Duhe
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I think Chambers has more talent but with his surroundings= less productive.....
I thought I would get flamed for RW and leaving out Warfield...:no: -
it's your list.....:up:
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i would like to add a multi purpose player the man can do it all
Jim Jensen
Position: Quarterback
College: Boston University
Year: 1981
Round: 11
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I'll play:
QBs
Dan Marino
Bob Griese
Don Strock
RBs
Ronnie Brown
Ricky Williams
Delvin Williams
Mercury Morris
Benny Malone
FBs
Larry Csonka
OL
Richmond Webb
Larry Little
Dwight Stevenson
Bob Kuechenberg
Norm Evans
Ed Newman
Roy Foster
Jim Langer
Keith Sims
TEs
Keith Jackson
Jim Mandich
Randy McMichael
WRs
Paul Warfield
Mark Clayton
Mark Duper
Nat Moore
Irving Fryar
OJ McDuffie
Chris Chambers
3rd Down Specialist
Jim Jensen
K
Pete Stoyanovich
P
Reggie Roby
DL
Jason Taylor
Bob Bauhhower
Tim Bowens
Bill Stanfill
Doug Betters
Vern Den Herder
Manny Fernandez
LBs
AJ Duhe
Zach Thomas
Brian Cox
Nick Buoniconti
John Offerdahl
Larry Gordon
Bob Matheson
DBs
Troy Vincent
Jake Scott
Dick Anderson
Patrick Surtain
Sam Madison
Tim Foley
Don McNeal
Louis Oliver
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no one is giving the best WR of all time, Oronde Gadsden, any love :)
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You did!!! :)
But to make the Top-53 list... I just don't see it. The next couple of guys I would have added would have been Darryl Gardener and maybe Tony Nathan as another 3rd down guy. And there's others I think I'd have before Oronde on there.
"But, my, what big hands you have, Oronde."
"The better to take your puny head in them and smash it like I would an egg, Finrunner!!!" -
Chambers was my favorite Dolphin before being traded, but the trade, especially now, makes sense. He could have helped with Beck's development next year, providing a veteran experienced WR, but we need the #2, which was pretty decent value, and he gets to go to a SD squad who look like perennial playoff contenders, he fits in. It's win all the way around except for us Dolphins/Chambers fans who wished he was still here.
I will cheer him on in SD until they play us, and wait anxiously because I know Ginn will absolutely become a 1K receiver! Oh gawd I've derailed the thread, I'll stop now. -
Some modifications to the list, and some real questions about the CB area... But, good basic list to start with...
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If you want to talk about what would have been...just imagine Marino throwing to Warfield.
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Note: I'm not looking at any other lists until I do my own. But, I think, most of the positions are relatively easy, except for a few spots:
Offense
WR - Paul Warfield - He has to be #1. One of greatest of all-time (top 5) and lone HOF WR.
WR - Mark Clayton; #3 WR - Duper; #4 - Nat Moore
TE - Jim Mandich
LT - Richmond Webb
LG - Larry Little - HOF
C - Dwight Stephenson / Jim Langer (two HOF's - had to put Langer out there)
RG - Bob Keuchenberg - should be HOF
RT - Norm Evans - perennial starter - 1965 to 75
QB - Dan Marino (with props to Bob)
FB - Larry Csonka
RB - Ricky Williams with his head on straight. Otherwise, Jim Kiick. Williams is the greatest RB in Dolphin history from a talent and productivity in his prime. This was difficult. If we're talking about talent that did show itself on the field, even if briefly, RW is the man. Ronnie could move in here. Otherwise, in terms of contribution - Kiick and Morris were great, but I give the edge to Kiick - how can you not? He's part of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid!
K - Yepremian - in spite of the SB blunder. He was a clutch kicker and made a big one in arguably the greatest playoff game of all time - Dolphins 27, Chiefs 24 - OT, Christmas Day, 1971. Everyone looks at the SD-Miami game; but I thought this game was an all-time classic. Still one of the greatest of all-time. And it was on Christmas Day! How can you beat that!
Defense (going with 4 down linemen and 4 LB's):
DE - Bill Stanfill (tough one - over Betters and others; but, he was under-rated and productive - He was NFL All-Pro 4 straight years - 71, 72, 73, 74; Pro Bowl in those years, plus 1969).
NT - Manny Fernandez - anchor on the Great No Name Defense.
DT - Tim Bowens (slight edge over Baumhower)
DE - Jason Taylor - hard to argue with 'Fins all-time sack leader, 6 PB's, 5 All-Pro teams).
OLB - Kim Bokamper - later moved to DE but first 4-5 seasons here. Lone "Killer B" on team.
ILB - Nick Buoniconti
ILB - Zach Thomas (slightly over A.J. Duhe - I think Duhe was slightly better in head-to-head best seasons, but Zach outlasts him). Shout out to John Offerdahl.
OLB - Bob Matheson - OLB is arguably the Dolphins weakest all-time position. Larry Gordon had great potential before tragically dying; Kolen and Swift were starters over Matheson, but the "53 Defense" is named after Matheson's #53. Now, it's the 3-4.
CB - Sam Madison - 5 time Pro Bowler; 4 time All-Pro
CB - Patrick Surtain - 3 time PB - more than any other Dolphin CB other than Madison & Vincent (I like him slightly ahead of Troy).
S - Dick Anderson
S - Jake Scott - how can any one not put Anderson and Scott? These two roamed the D-backfield like few safety tandems in NFL history. Both made spectacular plays in big games. Arguably, the biggest playmakers in Dolphin defensive history.
P - Reggie Roby - Booming punts like no other. Not real consistent, but still pretty awesome (kudos to Larry Seiple for his great fake punt against the Steelers in 72-73 playoffs, propelling Dolphins to SB against Washington).Last edited: Mar 27, 2008Pagan likes this. -
I dont think I would deviate from this much if at all.
Maybe Garo ahead of Stayo....maybe...
Very well done.....:up:
PS: Absolutely LOVE that you have Crash in there..:hi5:Finrunner likes this. -
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Good list. You need to tweak some positions. Langer was a center. Little was a guard. Buoniconti was a MLB. Matheson was OLB in the "53" defense. I forgot about Bryan Cox - good choice. Duhe was also MLB, but he was so, good, He'd start at OLB, so that's a good idea putting him there.
But, a couple of things for you younguns ;) ... as noted in my list:
Norm Evans, RT, was 1st team All-Pro 4 straight years (71-74); Paul Warfield has to be #1 - only Dolphin WR in HOF; And, truly was one of the all-time greats (top 3-4, imo). Jake Scott was all-world at S in the early 70's. -
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Quality list and love the commentary. Can't argue about much. On mine, I have Duhe and don't have Bokamper and Stoyanovich ahead of Yepremian - but that's quibbling. We're not far off.
But you get 53! Where's the depth? I did note you had back-up WRs and mentioned other players but even then, I'm only counting in the 30s.
Anyway, while there's no right or wrong answers, as Mindwarp said, maybe some lists are more right than others. :wink2: And this list is a good starting point, imo. Great job! -
How some of you guys could leave out Troy Vincent on your list is beyond me. If we could have players at any point of their respected careers alot of the choices for me would be incredibly easy. Thurman Thomas, Irving Fryar, Kieth Jackson, Tony Martin...
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OK here's mine..
QB
1. Dan Marino
2. Bob Griese
3. Scott Mitchell
RB
1. Ronnie Brown
2. Ricky Williams
3. Mercury Morris
4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
FB
1. Larry Csonka
WR
1. Mark Clayton
2. Mark Duper
3. OJ McDuffie
4. Paul Warfield
5. Oronde Gadsden
TE
1. Keith Jackson
2. Jim Jenson
3. Bruce Hardy
OT
1. Larry Little
2. Richmond Webb
3. Vernon Carey
OG
1. Bob Kuenchenberg
2. Jim Langer
3. Keith Simms
C
1. Dwight Stephenson
2. Tim Ruddy
3. Samson Satele
DE
1. Jason Taylor
2. Trace Armstrong
3. Bill Stanfil
4. Kim Bokamper
5. Adewale Ogunleye
DT
1. Tim Bowens
2. Daryl Gardner
3. Vonnie Holiday
OLB
1. Bryan Cox
2. Nick Buoniconti
3. AJ Duhe
4. Junior Seau
MLB
1. Zach Thomas
2. John Offerdahl
3. Bob Matheson
CB
1. Patrick Surtain
2. Sam Madison
3. Terrell Buckley
4. Will Allen
S
1. Dick Anderson
2. Jarvis Williams
3. Louis Oliver
4. Brock Marion
Specialist
Return man- Ted Ginn
Larry Izzo
K Jay Feely (Olindo Mare if I wasn't the adoptive father of JF!) lol
P Reggie Roby
LS Ed Perry -
I totally forgot about Troy Vincent but for whatever reason I can never remember him as a fin :sad: