Buy a PS4 or wait?

Also to add: I don't have a 4K TV and I have no desire for VR. I basically will play Madden, NBA 2K, COD, and GTA.

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Rumor: PS4 Slim coming soon. Some guy apparently listed it on eBay. Unknown if true or a hoax, but photos were provided and they look fairly legitimate. Most likely just a physical redesign of the existing hardware.

Confirmed: PS4 Neo coming at some point in the indeterminate future. Spec upgrade/redesign of the PS4. Unknown if there will be Neo-exclusive games or if the Neo just runs existing PS4 games at higher performance levels.

Sony has a Playstation event scheduled for September 7. I recommend waiting for that event before buying anything.

It looks like there will be an onslaught of very appealing RPG or semi-RPG PS4 games coming in a few months. Final Fantasy 15, now at the end of November. Horizon: Zero Dawn at the end of February. Mass Effect: Andromeda in Q1 (March seems likely). The Final Fantasy 7 remake rumored in Q2. And the Final Fantasy 12 remake likely in Q3 or 4. Not all of those are Sony exclusives, but if you're looking to upgrade from a PS3 or XBOX 360, and are into those kinds of games, its a great time to make the jump. That's basically a solid year of my gaming lineup.

To piggyback on what Desides said,

http://kotaku.com/psa-dont-buy-a-playstation-4-right-now-1785594272?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow

On September 7, Sony will host a press event in New York City, where they’ll announce at least two new models for their marquee console. One is a higher-powered, 4K-supporting PS4 that’s code-named NEO. The other is the recently leaked ‘PS4 Slim,’ a sleeker, likely cheaper version of the PS4 that will replace current models. It’s safe to say there will be good bundles for both versions, and that you’ll be able to get way better deals after September 7.

Rumor: Rockstar will announce an HD remaster of Red Dead Redemption for PS4/XB1/PC at the event on Wednesday.

Regarding the PS4 Pro and "Forward compatibility"

Although gamers have heard the term ‘backward compatible’ plenty in recent years, the forward compatible concept is relatively new. Basically it means that older games will be upgraded to support the aforementioned higher visual fidelity.
Among the games listed as forward compatible during the PlayStation Meeting were Infamous: First Light and Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor, but Sony promises that the list will continue to grow as developers learn more about the PS4 Pro console. For each game there will be a compatibility update, which will then unlock 4K/HDR capabilities while playing on the PS4 Pro. That means there will be no need to buy an upgraded version of any current games just to unlock 4K visuals.

They're talking this up like its a brand new concept, but the PS3 did this to a degree with PS2 games as well on HDTVs. It was also able to take widescreen DVDs and make them look very good. Not as good as Blu Rays, but really nice.

Worth waiting for PS4 Pro? Will gameplay improve aside from 4K graphics?

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"Stringer Bell wrote:

Worth waiting for PS4 Pro? Will gameplay improve aside from 4K graphics?

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From what I read today, which is multiple people's opinions of the same small presser, is that it will be slightly faster, and have a standard 1TB HD. Beyond that, the 4k deal is the big difference. For me, if my PS4 were to die later this year, and the regular one was much cheaper, I would be a standard (or slim), and not the Pro. I'm not going to be buying a new TV any time soon.

better to wait for PS4. what do you think?? ;)

http://gamerant.com/playstation-4-ps4-pro-specs/

OK, well this article has a lot more details on the PS4 Pro than what I'd seen yesterday, including the tech specs. They say that its actually about twice as powerful as the current PS4. I'm curious what that extra power means for current games. Honestly, my two year old system runs great, rarely has issues with games, and rarely crashes. If all PS4 games will be made to work on the old system, as has been said, I'm not sure how much of a difference that extra power will make.

As it turns out, the PS4 Pro will feature an AMD Radeon graphics processor which supports 4.2 teraflops, an 8 core x86-64 AMD “Jaguar”, and 8GB of GDDR6 ram. If any of that tech-based jargon doesn’t register with general consumers, then the most important thing that can be taken away from the newest PlayStation is that it is nearly twice as powerful as the currently available PS4 – and it comes with 1 terabyte of storage space to boot.Those hoping to see an in-depth overview of the specs for the PlayStation 4 Pro can do so below:

"Stringer Bell wrote:

Worth waiting for PS4 Pro? Will gameplay improve aside from 4K graphics?

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Consensus seems to be that games, even on the Pro, won't run at a full 60 FPS. Crucial differences seems to be 4K, bigger memory and faster loads.

"invid wrote:

Consensus seems to be that games, even on the Pro, won't run at a full 60 FPS. Crucial differences seems to be 4K, bigger memory and faster loads.

I read yesterday that the plan is for certain future games, designed to work on both systems from the get go, will work at 60FPS on the Pro.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I read yesterday that the plan is for certain future games, designed to work on both systems from the get go, will work at 60FPS on the Pro.

My mistake, but I take it with a grain of salt. Developers and console makers always seem to be chasing that 60 FPS and never seem to make it happen. Kudos if it's finally realized.

Here's an example of what you can expect. The Last of Us Remastered will run at 4K on PS4 Pro, but will be locked in to 30 FPS.

Andrew House: PS4 Pro is meant to stave off PC migration

Regarding the PlayStation 4 Pro, he suggested the Xbox wasn’t even being considered its main competition. Rather, it was the PC. “I saw some data that really influenced me,” he said. “It suggested that there’s a dip mid-console lifecycle where the players who want the very best graphical experience will start to migrate to PC, because that’s obviously where it’s to be had. We wanted to keep those people within our eco-system by giving them the very best and very highest . So the net result of those thoughts was PlayStation 4 Pro – and, by and large, a graphical approach to game improvement.”

This makes sense, since Sony doesn't exactly sell gaming computers. Sony sells 4K TVs, and the best way to sell 4K TVs is to have 4K content. (Though the PS4 Pro still isn't doing native 4K, but whatever, it at least does 1080p/60 decently enough.)

Microsoft is probably thinking the exact same thing, to be quite honest. Except in Microsoft's case, it makes no sense, because Microsoft profits when you buy a gaming PC, because you run Windows on your PC. But hey, they're locked in to their paradoxical strategy of selling hardware that competes with its core business, so, whatever.

"invid wrote:

My mistake, but I take it with a grain of salt. Developers and console makers always seem to be chasing that 60 FPS and never seem to make it happen. Kudos if it's finally realized.

No ones mistake. There's a lot of stuff floating around out there, and different writers seem to have taken different things from the same pressers.

New PS4 system update tomorrow. Most of it is meaningless to me, but I do love that you'll be able to see your trophys offline now. I never understood why you had to log on to see them before.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/09/12/ps4-system-software-update-4-00-out-tomorrow/

> Get PS4 Pro
> Get FFXV
> Set resolution to "High"
> PS4 Pro sets fan speed and noise to "High" instead

Sigh.

"Desides wrote:

> Get PS4 Pro
> Get FFXV
> Set resolution to "High"
> PS4 Pro sets fan speed and noise to "High" instead

Sigh.

For some games, the PS4 tends to be heavy on the fan, for whatever reason. Madden and MLB The Show are notorious for this. FWIW, I didn't have any of that while playing FFXV last night myself on my standard PS4. Some games, it comes and goes.

"Desides wrote:

> Get PS4 Pro
> Get FFXV
> Set resolution to "High"
> PS4 Pro sets fan speed and noise to "High" instead

Sigh.

My ps4 is in a different room than the room I play my games in thankfully, so that actually wouldn't bother me.

"Stitches wrote:

My ps4 is in a different room than the room I play my games in thankfully, so that actually wouldn't bother me.

How'd you pull that off?

"Desides wrote:

How'd you pull that off?

I have my projector and audio equipment in one room, and then I have my rack with receiver and amplifiers, and other video equipment (PC is in there too) in the room that is on the opposite side of my projector screen . Just pass the HDMI and speaker cables through the wall, and I have a Harmony One to do controls.

"Stitches wrote:

I have my projector and audio equipment in one room, and then I have my rack with receiver and amplifiers, and other video equipment (PC is in there too) in the room that is on the opposite side of my projector screen . Just pass the HDMI and speaker cables through the wall, and I have a Harmony One to do controls.

Nice. Good setup. Wish I could get something like that. Unfortunately, all my electronic stuff is on the same entertainment center, so fan noise is even more irksome than it otherwise would be.

http://kotaku.com/the-ps4-will-finally-support-external-hard-drives-1791956430?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow

Coming in the not too distant future, the PS4 will support external hard drives up to 8GB. So, awesome. No more deleting files to clear out space. I have an extra 2TB drive I can use.