I would guess that Fitz does retire, but I think you're off on Gailey. They're keeping things simple for Tua (for now) and I think he's doing a pretty good job overall keeping him protected. For instance, zero sacks today from our young line and we rushed for over 100 yards. I think we're doing things at the right pace.

 

Yeah I said it in another thread that Gailey is historically not a good OC. Just look at the rankings of his offenses:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GailCh0.htm

For the last 20 years his offenses have been ranked average or well below average in points scored. That's no accident. So yeah I do think we need a better OC. He's OK for Tua's rookie year (OK for a transition), but not for the future.

 

I hated his hiring but today really had little to do with play calling. Fitz doesnt do anything mystical within the offense, he just understands an NFL defense pre-snap better than Tua does at this point.

Also Tua left plays on the field for himself, and those shotgun handoffs he does have the option to keep, he just doesnt.

Fitz was our leading rusher last year because our backs were garbage and Gailey wasn't even our OC.

 

It would be hard to blame Gailey for a rookie QB who’s been mediocre 4 games into his career, an undrafted RB, one of the youngest OL’s in the NFL and maybe one legitimate WR healthy right now. Let’s give him an offense before we move on from him.

 

Can you give an example of what you mean? I dont think he has really called anything you wouldnt expect any QB to be able to handle, and hes done a decent job sprinkling in guys like Perry.

There is only so much you can do to help a young QB. He has the option to keep it, he gets out on bootlegs, the passes are mostly kept short and simple as well. I'm not sure what else there is? I could be missing something of course.

I'm not seeing anything that I wouldnt want a rookie QB doing though is my point. If anything maybe we've been too safe with him.

 

Certainly he should adjust and I assume he’s done so. But don’t be surprised when you give him sh** and he makes you a sh** sandwich.

 

Problem is our offense is lacking a lot of talent. According to PFF, the only 2 players on offense ranked in the top 20 are Gesicki and Fitzpatrick. 3/5 of our starting OL are ranked outside the top 60.

 

And that points to the short time the leadership has been around AND
the atrocious drafting before they got here! I have been watching the Dolphins since 67, and this is not the worse they have ever looked, but close enough to demand calls for someone to get off their tukkis and get to work - perhaps the owner.

 

You need to verify what you mean. It's great to use analogies but unless you have specific suggestions and concepts you think are going wrong it's hard for everyone to carry the conversation further.

 

I think we are missing part of the story. I have seriously never seen such conservative play calling in my life. I don't think that Chan Gailey just does this on his own. Clearly, when Fitz gets in, Chan opens up the playbook. I think that Flo is in on the conservative play calling. I think Flo believes that he can win with defense alone, and is long is there is not a brutal turnover, we are gonna be fine. I also agree with a previous poster who said the talent is not good on offense.

I had previously posted about wanting to open it for Tua, and I still think that is the move to make. I feel like we are getting the worst of both worlds. It makes winning harder, and it feels almost like they don't really want to put Tua out there.

I think the dynamic is really sorta strange right now.

 

You have to remember that this is a COVID year with an offense designed for Fitz to succeed. Originally, we planned for Tua to start in week 12 (after week 11 bye) and the league changed that on short notice, so it's hard to fault the OC for having a few weeks to reinvent the offense for a different style QB.

Today, we're a month in and the game plan has been very conservative with Tua...which I agree with based on other facets of this team. I think it's far too early to blame Gailey since this is a work in progress. To me, it's like looking at half a Picasso- there's no telling what the finished product may be. It's just too early to say if the problem is Tua, the offense, the coordinators, etc. since we've won all but one game under Tua/Gailey. There just hasn't been any need to really push tempo for entire games so far.

 

I think when we have tried to open it up the passes downfield have been really inaccurate. Part of that is just the nature of deep passing and I'm not saying it's a flaw in Tua, but it's hard to open it up when every deep ball has been 10 yards beyond the intended receiver, thrown out of bounds along the sideline or the line gives up too much pressure for a rookie.

We did try and open it up early against Denver but it led to 3rd and longs every drive before Gailey started to dial it back.

 

Well, Tua was way off against Denver...surprisingly off for the kid I watched at Alabama with fantastic accuracy. So like others said, maybe it was the foot injury and he wasn't planting correctly to follow through on his throws. Something felt way off there since it wasn't "Tua-like" at all. Maybe it was the high altitude or the increased defensive pressure...who knows?

The previous week, he scrambled to his right and "almost" had Grant on a deep TD after coverage broke down. Bad play, bad protection, but he missed Grant by about 2 feet on an extremely difficult timing throw. We didn't see those types of misses against Denver though- the precision was way off where it normally is.

 

It could be. Honestly his deep accuracy hasnt been there very much in any of our games but in fairness all deep balls are low percentage passes and he hasnt had a ton, a few were just heave it up throws he probably meant to overthrow rather than underthrow to begin with.

I never expected his deep accuracy to be great in the NFL and I think I have posts reflecting that, his bread and butter should be in the intermediate game. The ball is larger, the receivers arent streaking wide open and you dont have the same type of protection to sit back, set and throw with. The better deep passers arent the pinpoint accuracy guys (generally unless you mean Manning or Brady) but rather the guys with serious arm talent like a Big Ben in his prime, Mahomes or even Joe Flacco.

So all his college deep balls I immediately realized would be better suited towards the intermediate.

If he ever becomes a franchise QB in my opinion it's going to be within the short to intermediate game.

People dont like this but my personal comparison is Matt Leinart with better pocket presence and mobility. That isn't a huge knock because those are things Leinart needed to be successful and didnt have.

 

You're 14th in offensive points scored.

You've got a rookie QB, no run game, a shaky OL, and you're bringing a bunch of your WRs up to speed as you go.

I'm not entirely sure what the problem is here.

 

I think it's also worth mentioning that the Dolphins might very well be #1 in the league in terms of the amount of time spent in clock-killing mode sitting on a lead, which is certainly going to depress offensive production.