Changes of “some significance” coming for Dolphins

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Pro-XPro-Xforum_veteranOP
Dec 30, 2013, 07:56 AM

take it with a grain of salt... Until it happens its all bs to me...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/30/report-changes-of-some-significance-coming-for-dolphins/

Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports that two sources have told him that changes of “some significance” are coming for the Dolphins. There were no specifics about what kind of changes, but that they could include the departure of General Manager Jeff Ireland and will “definitely” include changes to the coaching staff.

Claymore95Claymore95subscriber
Dec 30, 2013, 08:06 AM

Ross has to, he must know that the last two games have seriously pissed off the fanbase, no changes will say he's happy with the same old same old. Any owner, no matter how useless he is, knows he's got to do something to give the fans some optimism...and at least some reason to spend their money on his product.

Of course, I'll not hold my breath waiting on any changes being what is really needed...we've been kicked in the stomach too often in the past.

Dec 30, 2013, 08:13 AM

As long as they don't eject the best parts of the team while retaining the problems, no one will have a problem with change at this point.

MOmole351New Member
Dec 30, 2013, 08:15 AM

I'll believe it when I see it

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Dec 30, 2013, 08:19 AM

If these changes don't include firing Ireland it will be shades of 2010. Every fan in their right mind new this regime needed to be flushed but Sparano got one more season. And Ireland is somehow also still employed.

CrunchTimeCrunchTimeretired_admin
Dec 30, 2013, 08:25 AM

"some significance" is such an subjective opinion that I am not sure we learn anything from that statement.It may just be the replacement of the STs coach to some.:wink2:

HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Dec 30, 2013, 08:25 AM

The way it's worded suggests that definitely Ireland and Sherman are gone, with Coyle a possibility. That's what I gather at least.

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Dec 30, 2013, 08:30 AM

Ireland is gone for sure. Some of Philbin's staff will be if not himself too.

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GMJohnsonGMJohnsonNew Member
Dec 30, 2013, 08:33 AM

Ah, anonymous sources making the most blatantly obvious statements you could possibly come up with. Clearly Armando is after the "angry Dolphin fans who want somebody/anybody fired" traffic.

HULKFishHULKFishforum_veteran
Dec 30, 2013, 08:35 AM

They'd be stupid to fire Philbin. Coyle should go IMHO. His gameplan's the last 2 weeks were atrocious, and he had no adjustments. Not to mention the degredation of the run D. Sherman, maybe. OL coach, definitely.

yogeyogeNew Member
Dec 30, 2013, 08:42 AM

I'd keep Sherman. don't think thill can learn another system as fast as we would like him too.

schmoliootschmoliootsubscriber
Dec 30, 2013, 08:44 AM

The Troika of Terror a/k/a Sherman/Turner/Taylor have to go. Excise that whole freakin family from this organization.

I'd fire everyone, but at least start with them and Ireland

Coral ReeferCoral ReeferNew Member
Dec 30, 2013, 08:47 AM

"yoge wrote:

I'd keep Sherman. don't think thill can learn another system as fast as we would like him too.

Sherman is one of the key elements that clearly need to go.
What good is the system if what you call within it is limiting and predictable?

RIP Jetssuck

Ohio FanaticOhio Fanaticsubscriber
Dec 30, 2013, 08:51 AM

while I usually hate shakeups for the sake of shakeups, we won't be losing much if we kick Sherman, Coyle and Turner out the door.

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MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Dec 30, 2013, 08:53 AM

"GMJohnson wrote:

Ah, anonymous sources making the most blatantly obvious statements you could possibly come up with. Clearly Armando is after the "angry Dolphin fans who want somebody/anybody fired" traffic.

And what type of fan do you consider yourself? The type of fan who defends coaches, players, FO, etc no matter how much ineptitude they display?

GMJohnsonGMJohnsonNew Member
Dec 30, 2013, 08:55 AM

"Coral Reefer wrote:

Sherman is one of the key elements that clearly need to go.
What good is the system if what you call within it is limiting and predictable?

IMO Sherman was calling plays according to Philbin's instructions.

schmoliootschmoliootsubscriber
Dec 30, 2013, 09:01 AM

"Tannehill wrote:

As long as they don't eject the best parts of the team while retaining the problems, no one will have a problem with change at this point.

Don't worry, Brandon Fields isn't going anywhere

GMJohnsonGMJohnsonNew Member
Dec 30, 2013, 09:13 AM

"MonstBlitz wrote:

And what type of fan do you consider yourself? The type of fan who defends coaches, players, FO, etc no matter how much ineptitude they display?

I guess it's easier to call people inept for you than it is for me. Or Ross. Or Philbin. Or anyone else who actually knows what's going on. I hope that works out for you. I hope it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Coral ReeferCoral ReeferNew Member
Dec 30, 2013, 09:13 AM

"GMJohnson wrote:

IMO Sherman was calling plays according to Philbin's instructions.

Maybe.

However:

Head coaches give direction in how they want games called but the coordinators make those calls and manage the game when it comes down to it unless the HC literally calls in what he wants. Nothing that I have seen has even insinuated this is what has been going on.

Secondly, Sherman's Dolphins tenure is not the first time having his game plan/management and calls being a focal point of controversy.

RIP Jetssuck

SamphinSamphinNew Member
Dec 30, 2013, 09:25 AM

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

The way it's worded suggests that definitely Ireland and Sherman are gone, with Coyle a possibility. That's what I gather at least.

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Soooo, all of my fake tweets from last night are coming true. Does that mean I broke the news? Or did I break the news?

GMJohnsonGMJohnsonNew Member
Dec 30, 2013, 09:28 AM

"Coral Reefer wrote:

Maybe.

However:

Head coaches give direction in how they want games called but the coordinators make those calls and manage the game when it comes down to it unless the HC literally calls in what he wants. Nothing that I have seen has even insinuated this is what has been going on.

Secondly, Sherman's Dolphins tenure is not the first time having his game plan/management and calls being a focal point of controversy.

Agreed. But I saw some things from Sherman this year that were so against the grain that I have a hard time believing he was doing it without instructions or at least blessings from his boss. Abandoning the run early in games, not calling screens, draws, counters, traps, etc. Not moving the pocket, running the QB, moving Wallace around to create favorable matchups, among other things. It's hard for me to imagine that Sherm decided all that on his own. If Philbin was a bystander to that then it doesn't speak well for him in my book.

Alex44Alex44New Member
Dec 30, 2013, 09:50 AM

Ireland should go. I've been debating it a lot lately and I'm turning the corner on this. I stand by my original idea that he should get this season, and he did. Now I'm judging him fairly without bias and I don't think he should be back.

Philbin should remain another year unless the new GM decides objectively that he isn't the man for the job. Not just because the GM wants "his guy".

Sherman needs to go. No more game plans written with crayon and construction paper please. I'm not sure Sherman doesn't do it that way...he's that inept.

Coyle I'm on the fence. I wouldn't mind keeping him but he needs to better utilize his LBs and set them up for success not failure. Also needs to look at his late game defensive calls, man up and make some changes.

New OL and QB coaches as well.

I honestly believe we are an easy rebuild for a decent GM. We have some nice pieces, now lets add to them and make a run.

On the draft Quentin Rollins bandwagon.

CitizenSnipsCitizenSnipsNew Member
Dec 30, 2013, 09:51 AM

im going to be updating my phone all morning.

brandon27brandon27subscriber
Dec 30, 2013, 09:56 AM

"GMJohnson wrote:

Agreed. But I saw some things from Sherman this year that were so against the grain that I have a hard time believing he was doing it without instructions or at least blessings from his boss. Abandoning the run early in games, not calling screens, draws, counters, traps, etc. Not moving the pocket, running the QB, moving Wallace around to create favorable matchups, among other things. It's hard for me to imagine that Sherm decided all that on his own. If Philbin was a bystander to that then it doesn't speak well for him in my book.

That statement right there, to me... says that they all need to go. Whether it was Sherman's decision to do all of that, or Philbin's... It's irrelevant. Someone decided to do things that way... they should have collectively been able to realize it's not working, and try to adjust. We had the same problems all year long on field. It never changed. To me, that's damning of the entire staff. I dont care who was the bystander, and who was the director, it was all wrong, it wasnt ever really fixed asife from maybe a few brief momments. To me, that means your OC needs to go, and your HC needs to go for failing to take control, especially when he's a former OC. The whole thing is flawed at this point IMO.


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MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Dec 30, 2013, 09:57 AM

"Alex44 wrote:

Ireland should go. I've been debating it a lot lately and I'm turning the corner on this. I stand by my original idea that he should get this season, and he did. Now I'm judging him fairly without bias and I don't think he should be back.

Philbin should remain another year unless the new GM decides objectively that he isn't the man for the job. Not just because the GM wants "his guy".

Sherman needs to go. No more game plans written with crayon and construction paper please. I'm not sure Sherman doesn't do it that way...he's that inept.

Coyle I'm on the fence. I wouldn't mind keeping him but he needs to better utilize his LBs and set them up for success not failure. Also needs to look at his late game defensive calls, man up and make some changes.

New OL and QB coaches as well.

I honestly believe we are an easy rebuild for a decent GM. We have some nice pieces, now lets add to them and make a run.

I also believe this to be true. This team has a greatly improved young QB with the arrow pointing up. Bring in a GM who can build a competent offensive line and this is no major overhaul. It's a flawed roster, but it just needs some glue in the cracks to bring it all together. The problem is Ireland can never fix it. Not without making more cracks. He's proven this time and time again. If he's retained he will prove it again.

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