I didn't see this posted of late but thought I'd put it out - and thought it would be interesting to see how this pans out since their lists look rather different now (usually the lists start to look more alike as the draft comes round). Will be interesting to see whose list changes the most:
McShay (Scouts, Inc.):
1. Andre Smith* OT Alabama 98
2. Sam Bradford** QB Oklahoma 98
3. Matthew Stafford* QB Georgia 97
4. Michael Crabtree** WR Texas Tech 97
5. Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State 97
6. Michael Oher OT Mississippi 97
7. Jeremy Maclin** WR Missouri 96
8. Vontae Davis* CB Illinois 96
9. Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest 96
10. Everette Brown* DE Florida State 96
11. Sen'Derrick Marks* DT Auburn 96
12. Eben Britton* OT Arizona 95
13. Jerry Hughes** DE TCU 95
14. Mark Sanchez* QB USC 95
15. Chris Wells* RB Ohio State 95
16. Rey Maualuga ILB USC 95
17. Terrence Cody* DT Alabama 95
18. Aaron Maybin** DE Penn State 94
19. Knowshon Moreno** RB Georgia 94
20. Michael Johnson DE Ga. Tech 93
21. Eugene Monroe OT Virginia 93
22. Jermaine Gresham* TE Oklahoma 93
23. James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State 92
24. LeSean McCoy** RB Pittsburgh 92
25. Brian Orakpo DE Texas 92
26. George Selvie* DE S. Florida 91
27. Brian Cushing OLB USC 91
28. Percy Harvin* WR Florida 91
29. Brandon Pettigrew TE Okla. State 91
30. Taylor Mays* S USC 6-3½
31. Russell Okung* OT Okla. State 90
32. Darrius Heyward-Bey* WR Maryland 90
(Note: Single stars are draft eligible Jr's; double stars are draft eligible Soph's).
Kiper (as of Nov. 26):
1. Aaron Curry Jr. LB Wake Forest
2. Michael Oher Sr. OT Mississippi
3. Rey Maualuga Sr. LB USC
4. Jason Smith Jr. OT Baylor
5. Brandon Pettigrew Jr. TE Oklahoma St.
6. Brian Cushing Sr. LB USC
7. Eugene Monroe Sr. OT Virginia
8. B.J. Raji Jr. DT Boston College
9. William Moore Jr. S Missouri
10. Michael Johnson Sr. DE Georgia Tech
11. Brian Orakpo Sr. DE Texas
12. Malcolm Jenkins Sr. CB Ohio State
13. Tyson Jackson Sr. DE LSU
14. Alex Mack Jr. C California
15. James Laurinaitis Sr. LB Ohio State
16. Peria Jerry Sr. DT Mississippi
17. Max Unger Sr. C Oregon
18. Clay Matthews Sr. LB USC
19. Larry English Sr. LB No. Illinois
20. Duke Robinson Sr. OG Oklahoma
21. Alphonso Smith Sr. CB Wake Forest
22. Juaquin Iglesias Sr. WR Oklahoma
23. Chase Coffman Sr. TE Missouri
24. Mohamed Massaquoi Sr. WR Georgia
25. Clint Sintim Sr. LB Virginia
Kiper also had a very interesting article on Cincinnati QB Tony Pike (a 4th year Jr. who has just emerged this year). Pike's stats are pretty solid and he seems quite efficient. What impresses Kiper the most about the 6'6 225 pounder is his mobility relative to his size. At 6'6 he should probably add a few pounds and bulk up but he has some potential. However, I think he'd do well to have another year in college for his own development.
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Just from looking over the list one is made from watching headlines, and the other is made from watching some film. Does anyone notice which list has more "pro" like players. Not the names everyone already knows, but names that are actually more about substance.
Kiper's list is much better IMO. McShay's list is more about who the hot name is. The difference is glaring, and I know a few people here who could produce a better list IMO. -
kiper doesnt have everette brown in his top 25. interesting
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There is another guy Brandon Hughes is his name. Got the last name mixed up with someone else. Sorry.
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Amen. I remember McShay's list changing constantly last year a day or two after Mike Mayock would give his - and the changes would always be what Mayock had said a day or two prior.
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Is it me or does Kiper's list have a bunch of senior prospects listed as juniors...? Just looking at the names on Kiper's list, they all appear to be seniors.
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I'll give Mayock credit, he was all over Matt Ryan last year.
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God McShay's list is almost like a 1st round mock. At least Kiper actually does top 25 prospects.
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In part because he's family friends with Ryan. Honestly, Mayock should have refused to talk about him.
Mayock did a great job with the prior draft, however, and he should definitely be listened to as far as actual draft status is concerned. Talent rankings, maybe not.
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Mike and Andrew Brandt I believe work on prospect rankings and watch film on them. Here's his list of top ten LBers in the draft, that happen to come out today.
The National Football Post | NFL Draft: Top 10 Linebackers
There are writeups in the link, here's the list.
1. MLB Brandon Spikes, Florida
2. MLB Rey Maualuga, USC
3. OLB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
4. MLB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
5. OLB Mark Herzlich, Boston College
6. OLB Clint Sintim, Virginia
7. OLB Brian Cushing, USC
8. OLB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri
9. OLB Rico McCoy, Tennessee
10. OLB Marcus Freeman, Ohio State -
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Nice list. Just curious, of the MLB's who do you guys like better - Maualuga or Spikes? Which one do you think would fit better in a 3-4? (I'm not arguing by that that an ILB is a certainty as our #1 pick - but just in case we were fortunate to have a shot at one - and he was the BPA - which would you prefer?). Not slighting Laurinaitis; but I do think Maualuga is better than him.
I've watched Maualuga since he was a senior in HS so I'm a bit prejudice. I also like his size (260) for an ILB. But, I'm not one to play favorites - pick the best player, imo. -
Mark Herzlich is a fascinating name that high. That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone go out on a limb on him; Kiper has him listed as his #3 Jr linebacker. What has always struck me is his relentless nature, his excellent, excellent tackling ability in sapce, his ability to shed and his play against the run. He has a DeMarcus Ware type body in terms of length and leaness, but at 238, he's too probably light for us.
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Which LB is better? I don't know. Tempted to go with Spikes since I've been touting him for a while now. But, Maualuga is probably the better guy in our system.