Interesting read and view on the state of the team , how to build a team and again Polian is keeping his name out there . Just saying.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...o-dolphins-20120912,0,3676778.story?track=rss
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Going by that, Bill Polian's teams were never well built. He lacked all but two of those things.
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Super Bowl appearances?
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Great read, thanks for sharing! I especially liked where Hyde mentioned Polian has built successful teams in both the NFL of yesterday and today's pass happy league instead of trying to build 1985 teams like Parcells and Ireland are want to do.
I'd love for Polian to be the next GM of the Miami Dolphins. I'm not sure if he wants the job or if it would be offered to him, but his track record is undeniable. Yes he deserves blame for the collapse of the Colts last year, but I'll take a GM who has built superbowl teams but made some mistakes over a guy who has no track record.dolfan22 likes this. -
Buffalo had a very good defense and offense.
Polian's problem isn't building the team, it's keeping it competitive. the last few years, Indy turned completely one-sided. -
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The other instances don't count then? And if Polian was still in Indy you think he would not have them over .500 after 4 years? -
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If you're going to replace Ireland replace him with someone who has had success recently and not because they had Peyton Manning. -
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Super Bowls with the Bills don't mean anything to me. Just as Parcells super bowls don't mean anything to me, nor do JJ's. They were a long time ago in a different NFL and those philosophies don't translate anymore.
This wasn't one bad year for Polian. He'd been the GM for awhile and amassed exactly enough talent to win 2 freaking games without Manning. 2. Its why he was let go. Manning covered up how bad of a job he did. -
Agree to disagree. I think his body of work makes a bad season forgivable. And you're still welcome to try and find an objective, non-Dolphin fan who would take Ireland over Polian. :lol: -
I have to agree with not wanting Polian. I really really really hated the way he built that INDY team even when they were competitive. If we fire Ireland it's whatever, but please no Polian. I may have to gauge my eyes out and blast myself in the head.
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Replace Manning with any starting QB in the league not named Brady and they are a 7-8-9 win team every season. Replace him with a backup and you're a 2 win team.Trowa, Coral Reefer and Fin D like this. -
It's my conspiracy theory. Irsay is a crazy, underhanded maniac. If you follow him on twitter you will see this. Last season, Irsay ordered the code red.
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Bill Polian being advertised as a serious alternative to Jeff Ireland is an example of how little some of this stuff is really being thought through.
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Parcells won Super Bowls back then against Polian...how'd he do here?
JJ won Super Bowls back then against Polian....how'd he do here?
There is a difference in the game from then till now.
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In other threads you've talked about how important a franchise QB is to the success of a team and you don't think losing Peyton should have a huge impact on a team with a poor head coach?
It's amazing how quickly you change your stance on a couple of your key talking points when we're talking about another GM and not defending Ireland...texanphinatic, jdang307, ssmiami and 1 other person like this. -
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Did I step in to the Twilight Zone where dogs are cats and up is down?
And to get even crazier, you are saying Ireland has to go because our record is so bad and put none of it on a coach or QB.Trowa likes this. -
Polian was one of the best GM's for many years in the NFL. I just don't know if he still has it in him to try once again to rebuild another franchise.texanphinatic likes this. -
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I'm not contradicting myself in any size, shape or form. You are.
I think QB play and coaching is so vital to a team you can take a team devoid of talent and make them contenders. How does that contradict my stance on Polian and the Colts? I'm saying that Polian kept that team so devoid of talent that without Manning and Dungy they win 2 games.
Do you understand that is exactly what I've been saying? Do you understand that you've argued against that with Ireland?Trowa likes this. -
It is pretty amazing to see people who defend Ireland rip on Polian. Like, that's actually happening here.
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