Dennis Hickey “definitely out,” Chris Grier likely in

Chris Grier is considered one of the best young talent evaluators in the NFL. He was a hot enough name that both the Jets and Eagles interviewed him for their GM positions last year.

I am beginning to see that Parcells should have been praised for jumping off a sinking ship with rotten leadership the day Ross took over. Parcells is far smarter now in hindsight for his actions once Wayne sold the majority to Ross.

I think the term Cluster**** would be an upgrade to our current situation.

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This may turn into the jest of a few years ago.

"PhinGeneral wrote:

Chris Grier is considered one of the best young talent evaluators in the NFL. He was a hot enough name that both the Jets and Eagles interviewed him for their GM positions last year.

Interviewing isn't hiring. I am no faith in Tannebaum or Ross, so anyone they hire is highly questionable to me.

I wish I could be more positive about this coming off season or the direction of this team in the future. It is terrible being so apathetic about a team I have been a fan of since 1966.

I just don't believe in Ross and I wake up every morning hoping when I open up this site that I will read Ross has sold the team.

It has been like one long nightmare since he became majority owner of the Dolphins.

"jw3102 wrote:

Interviewing isn't hiring. I am no faith in Tannebaum or Ross, so anyone they hire is highly questionable to me.

I wish I could be more positive about this coming off season or the direction of this team in the future. It is terrible being so apathetic about a team I have been a fan of since 1966.

I just don't believe in Ross and I wake up every morning hoping when I open up this site that I will read Ross has sold the team.

It has been like one long nightmare since he became majority owner of the Dolphins.

I understand the skepticism. I'm not much of a Stephen Ross fan either. But in regards to Chris Grier, a guy like him usually doesn't get interviewed unless he's built up a solid reputation. Reportedly he came quite close to getting the GM job in Philly.

Eventually this circle of incompetence has to end. I don't know whether Tannenbaum's the guy to do it, but a step forward would be for Ross to let him do what he's paying him to and try to build an organization that's at least on the same page.

"gunn34 wrote:

This may turn into the jest of a few years ago.

Sadly. Except without even the two fluke playoff runs they had.

"lmeister3 wrote:

Sadly. Except without even the two fluke playoff runs they had.

Now, now. I'd say the first one was flukish. Not the second one. And as you guys pile on Tannehill, think about how the Jets got to two ABC championship games with Mark ****ing Sanchez. It starts with not having a dog **** team surrounding your qb, lol

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"BicketyBam wrote:

Now, now. I'd say the first one was flukish. Not the second one. And as you guys pile on Tannehill, think about how the Jets got to two ABC championship games with Mark ****ing Sanchez. It starts with not having a dog **** team surrounding your qb, lol

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They got there by mortgaging future years.

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I think you guys would sell your left nut to see a playoff win. Admit it.

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"BicketyBam wrote:

I think you guys would sell your left nut to see a playoff win. Admit it.

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I'm not passing judgement. Just saying what I think happened.

PS - did you buy a PSL???

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Hmm, liked Hickey, can understand why he was cut loose, 5-10 with our cap number.

What I DISLIKE is by making Grier the GM, the next HC now is handcuffed, and I like Grier he was deeply involved in signing Cam Wake, but still, cart before the horse and tells us a lot about what the HC search will look like, probably not an established name HC

“I want to thank Dennis for his work over the last two years. We talked about a number of different possibilities, but at the end we reached this agreement,” executive V.P. of football operations Mike Tannenbaum said in a release. “I have a great deal of respect for what he accomplished here and wish Dennis and his family well.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/02/dolphins-dennis-hickey-part-ways/

LOL ...... such milestones they were too lemme tell ya.

"Stringer Bell wrote:

I'm not passing judgement. Just saying what I think happened.

PS - did you buy a PSL???

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Fair enough. The 2011 team was still decent, but I blame Rex for the team falling apart down the stretch. They did make some real questionable moves, spearheaded by Tannenbaum. Tebow and the massive contract they gave Sanchez after they traded for Tebow immediately come to mind.

I did not buy a PSL. I gave up my season tickets and have yet to see a game at MetLife.

"BicketyBam wrote:

Now, now. I'd say the first one was flukish. Not the second one. And as you guys pile on Tannehill, think about how the Jets got to two ABC championship games with Mark ****ing Sanchez. It starts with not having a dog **** team surrounding your qb, lol

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Fair. But comparing this team to dog**** is misrepresenting dog****.

"lmeister3 wrote:

I think the term Cluster**** would be an upgrade to our current situation.

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It was a cluster**** at the end of last season and going into this season.

Getting rid of Philbin, Coyle, Lazor and now Hickey is the cleansing of the cluster****

I don't see the negative side of this. Hickey, though not terrible, didn't fit. This is how you're supposed to get ready to conduct a HC search and "clean house." Finally...no more half ass measures

"Eop05 wrote:

It was a cluster**** at the end of last season and going into this season.

Getting rid of Philbin, Coyle, Lazor and now Hickey is the cleansing of the cluster****

I don't see the negative side of this. Hickey, though not terrible, didn't fit. This is how you're supposed to get ready to conduct a HC search and "clean house." Finally...no more half ass measures

TBaum picked some of the players in the last draft. Gave Suh that contract. Gave THill that contract. Apparently is going to keep part of the scouting staff that contributed to years of futility. Will remain employed going into 2016 season. Will be point man in HC search which will result in the opposite of a head-strong candidate. How is this not a half measure?

"lmeister3 wrote:

I think the term Cluster**** would be an upgrade to our current situation.

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What is cluster**** about our current situation though?

We're clearing house and putting one person not Ross in charge so the team has a singular vision going forward....isn't that what we all wanted?

Tannenbaum, for instance, is not your typical "grinder" when it comes to scouting. He does not watch expansive film on players, like many of the general managers in the NFL who came up through the scouting ranks.

Ha. How do you "make final decisions" but you aren't a film junky.

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"Fin D wrote:

What is cluster**** about our current situation though?

We're clearing house and putting one person not Ross in charge so the team has a singular vision going forward....isn't that what we all wanted?

The Dolphins are in the worst cap space of any team looking to hire a new head coach. I have read many comments that the Dolphin head coaching job is likely the least desirable job which will be available after black Monday.

Tannebaum really hasn't shown in his time with the Jets or in his one year with the Dolphins that he knows how to do anything but overspend the owners money for players which don't make the team any better.

Having one man in charge with a singular vision is great, if that man knows what he is doing. I just don't think Tannebaum is the right man for that job.

I know you tend to look at this organization more positively than I do. I wish I could see a positive in having Tannebaum running the front office but I just don't.

I think the Dolphins will end up getting a head coach none of the other teams with a head coaching vacancy will want to hire. I think the Colts, Titans, Lions, Giants, Saints, Chargers, and Eagles will likely all have head coaching vacancies in the next few days. I really don't see any quality head coaching candidate turning down any of those jobs and coming to Miami to work for Ross and Tannebaum.

Hopefully I am wrong.

"Fin D wrote:

What is cluster**** about our current situation though?

We're clearing house and putting one person not Ross in charge so the team has a singular vision going forward....isn't that what we all wanted?

I'm just about done with the organization's hope trafficking. I'm saying this team will get upgraded to cluster**** as soon as they show me somebody remotely capable is running it.

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"Nappy Roots wrote:

Tannenbaum, for instance, is not your typical "grinder" when it comes to scouting. He does not watch expansive film on players, like many of the general managers in the NFL who came up through the scouting ranks.

Ha. How do you "make final decisions" but you aren't a film junky.

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And yet Tanenbaum had a conviction about DT Jordan Phillips and insisted on drafting him. So turn the clock forward- Phillip's underachieving ways have continued, and that 2nd round pick was sorely needed for a shambles of an offensive line with the star LT's knee shredded the year before. The pick after Philips? LT Jake Fisher, who would have been a great selection at a need position, uber talented and great insurance as to Branden Albert's knee rehab. We could have used Fisher in a big way- imagine the difference if we could have had him and not Jason Fox or Dallas Thomas backing up Albert at LT or playing RT when James went down with that toe injury.

With the 3rd round pick gone because we desperately had to unload the Dannell Ellerbe contract, that 2nd round pick was a precious commodity that should have been devoted to the OL. Regardless, Tannenbaum insisted that we draft an uber talented, underachieving DT (with Suh having been signed to a mega contract) who also had back surgery. So should the pick have been the talented, underachieving DT coming off back surgery or an excellent, extremely athletic OT prospect who was expected to be a first round pick for our OL that was in dire need of help? Jake Fisher was the next pick off of the board after Phillips, taken #53 overall by the Bengals.

"jim1 wrote:

And yet Tanenbaum had a conviction about DT Jordan Phillips and insisted on drafting him. So turn the clock forward- Phillip's underachieving ways have continued, and that 2nd round pick was sorely needed for a shambles of an offensive line with the star LT's knee shredded the year before. The pick after Philips? LT Jake Fisher, who would have been a great selection at a need position, uber talented and great insurance as to Branden Albert's knee rehab. We could have used Fisher in a big way- imagine the difference if we could have had him and not Jason Fox or Dallas Thomas backing up Albert at LT or playing RT when James went down with that toe injury.

With the 3rd round pick gone because we desperately had to unload the Dannell Ellerbe contract, that 2nd round pick was a precious commodity that should have been devoted to the OL. Regardless, Tannenbaum insisted that we draft an uber talented, underachieving DT, with Suh having been signed to a mega contract, who had also had back surgery. So should the pick have been a talented, underachieving DT coming off back surgery or an excellent, extremely athletic OT prospect who was expected to be a first round pick for an OL in dire need of help? Jake Fisher was the next pick off of the board after Phillips, taken #53 overall by the Bengals.

I think Phillip's can eventually develop into a good player. Yet I agree with you that DT was not a need in the second round of last years draft. Especially after the signing of Suh.

The fact Tannebaum ignored the real positions of need, offensive line, and secondary early in last years draft, or in the case of the LB position, completely in the draft. It makes you wonder if he actually knows how to build a team or if he just likes to make a big splash by overpaying free agents or average starters already on the team.

"lmeister3 wrote:

I'm just about done with the organization's hope trafficking. I'm saying this team will get upgraded to cluster**** as soon as they show me somebody remotely capable is running it.

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I feel like you're just mad because I rolled over and went to sleep when I was done.