I too think we pass.

 

i really don't think Bryant has a lot leverage. Crabtree played a heck of a year before heading to the draft. Bryant didn't play at all.

to top things off, i don't think there will be another WR drafted before Bryant, which were Crabtree's qualms iirc.

 

I don't think his agent will have much to do with it. In Baseball, with Scott Boras, people have avoided his clients on principal alone. I could be wrong but I haven't seen the same thing in the NFL, especially with there being a salary cap.

We may end up passing on Bryant, but I doubt that will have much to do with the decision... Armando is bored.

 

I don't know what was "In Depth" about that particular piece. Talk about generalizing. Just because that happened with Crabtree doesn't mean that there is even a likelihood of a holdout.

 

Armando is a clown.

We may not draft Bryant, but I would doubt it would be due to an agent. If the Trifecta wants Bryant, we will have Bryant. Plus Parker left that whole ordeal with a chapped ***.

 

I believe the entire Dolphin fan base would have to question the competence of the front office in general if they let the selection of an agent cloud the process of drafting the best talent available based on our schemes and needs.

The logic in that article is so far off-base that its scary to even consider.

 

Well, I do know one of the things they liked about Jake Long was the fact that he agreed to the contract early. Obiviously all indications were that he was their #1 guy to begin with, but had the talks not been smooth who knows what would have happened.

I agree with you though. An agent should not come into play regarding player selection.

 

Arm And O-
Bwaaaahhaahhaaa.
That's your source?
Bwaaaahhaahhaaa......

 

http://www.sportingnews.com/college...on-ends-season-for-oklahoma-states-dez-bryant

It was a pretty stupid reason to be suspended, IMO. I wouldn't hold it against him, but that's just me.

 

Yeah, they said it wasn't the fact he met with Deion, but the fact that he lied to the NCAA.

It's tantamount to me lying to my girlfriend about being out drinking with the guys until 2 AM, and her not upset about the drinking, only the lying, and refusing to have sex with me for a year.

 

Wow bummer :pity:
Could be worse I guess.
Could be a Raider fan :up:

 

Question away.

Like it or not, the agent absolutely plays a part in the decision. And Miami isn't the only team who operates this way.

The best available player doesn't do you much good if he's sitting at home.

 

Which I really don't care about... the dude is young, probably just got scared and lied about it. It's something that everyone does, I just don't think the punishment was necessary.

To me, I just think... Brandon Spikes tried to gouge someone's eyes... NCAA doesn't do ****. Dez Bryant lies about meeting with Deon Sanders, a calender year suspension?

 

This exactly.
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Bryant paid way too heavy a price for something petty IMO.
Hell, Reggie Bush was taking LOTS of money from boosters yet.....nothing.

 

If Bryant really is the guy they're targeting at #12 overall and he's sitting there in April with Miami on the clock, do you believe the front office would pass on him based soley on his choice of agents? Because that's what Armando is implying in this article.

No one is debating that the agent and the eventual contract demands aren't factored into the equation. But ultimately if he's your guy, and graded out as the best player left on the board at a "need" position, I couldn't envision a scenario where the front office passes on him because of his agent.

Baseball? Yes. Football? I don't see a precedent to make that leap. Maybe there have been instances that simply weren't reported, but I'd be very disappointed in the front office if that's the approach they bring to the draft.

 

just a bad move on Dez's part really. He's already in a bad spot because he missed pretty much the whole season.

 

Deion also has Eugene Parker as an agent. Seems like Parker has been trying to get his claws into Bryant for awhile.

Honestly there is enough reason to be concerned. Kid would have to really impress the FO in the interview room to have a shot at being drafted by them. Parcell's doesn't like drafting WR's in round one anyway. Much less ones who have a agent who's prone to holdouts.

This current front office places great value on having draft picks signed early and in camp. It's a priority for them. If they like a kid but think there's a good chance he might hold out or miss training camp they will probably pass on him I think.

Dez Bryant signing with Eugene Parker will affect how the FO looks at him. The fact that Bryant did so after what happened with Crabtree makes me want him less when there are other good options out there.

 

I think it ALL hinges on exactly who all is there at 12.
Honestly won't surprise me at all either way.
For what its worth, he is very very high on my draft wish list.

 

Don't know why some are knocking Armando's article. He gave three valid reasons why the Trifecta likely would not draft Bryant.

1) Limited playing time during his collegiate career (28 games).

2) The suspension (i.e., possible character issues). And, no I'm not debating whether or not the NCAA sould've or shouldn't have suspended him.

3) His agent being the same as Crabtree's. Therefore, a potentially difficult negotiation and possible holdout situation. Like it or not, agents do get a rep (one way or the other). And, it does influence a team's way of looking at the player they represent.

Add to that what Xeticus said about Parcells history of not drafting WR's in the first round, and honestly...it ain't looking very likely that they draft him (assuming he's still there at #12).

JMHO...

 

Starting 28 games isn't really limited playing time.

 

Maybe. Maybe not. But, my point was really that Armando gave multiple reasons to support his position. Whereas several posters seemed to focus solely on the agent issue.

Having said that, IIRC Parcells has a history of not drafting underclassmen. I know I heard that with regard to his drafting of QB's.

 

What about Ireland though?

Davis - JR
Sean Smith - redshirt JR
Hartline - JR

Playing time is important, but so is talent.

 

they are going to draft the players they think are best for the system they want to run. I don't think being an underclassman will deter them if they have seen enough of the player.

 

I certainly agree.

 

Armando has little credibility w/me
would never set to sea in that leaky vessel
having said that
personally, I know nothing about the draft
that I don't read somewhere else
and all the talk is about Dez Bryant
however
we have several very astute members that know
about the draft (serious pundits) that post our forum
& the Miami FrontOffice knows everything, not to worry
I would never disqualify anyone
over anything Armando said :no:

 

We can take him in the 2nd.

 

He is a tard. Crabtree held out because he thought it was an injustice of him being drafted after DHB...and it was. Still, it was wrong. However, Parker wasn't the problem. It was Crabtree and his cousin who was advising him.

 

Biggest mistake in this current regime's run with the team would be to pass on Dez Bryant. I'd be heartbroken myself.

 

Nice brother, I agree...forget this guy, just isnt going to happen...

 

This needed to be said.

 

For the many who are so certain agents shouldn;t mean a thing at all in considering a draft pick, we can revisit this thread if we end up drafting ANY player and they end up missing camp... then not contributing for the first half of the year.

Especially if it ends up being Dez.

Year after year we hear about how a player holds out, then misses a lot of camp, then has a bad year and everyone inside and outside the organization say it's because they were way too far behind physically and mentally out there because of missing time in camp.

Happens every year to someone. Maybe to us this year, hey guys? Hope not.