Dilemma at TE

That drop Friday was absurd. If he doesn't get it together fast I see no point in keeping him on the roster. We have plenty of guys that are cheaper that can play just as poorly.

What makes you think we are going without any two TE sets?? And what do we need cap room for at this point? We will have more cap room than we know what to do with in 2017.

"Phoenician Fan wrote:

What makes you think we are going without any two TE sets?? And what do we need cap room for at this point? We will have more cap room than we know what to do with in 2017.

If they can't figure out what to do with the cap space given the gaping holes on the team then it's going to be a long time before they are out of the AFCE basement

There's no advantage to cutting cameron. He's definitely our best all round TE. The drop was bad, but you don't cut a guy for one drop.

he sucks. wish we still had clay

"CitizenSnips wrote:

There's no advantage to cutting cameron. He's definitely our best all round TE. The drop was bad, but you don't cut a guy for one drop.

it's more than a drop. He has slowly just diminished from this offense. He cannot block and he is always hurt.
This has been going on for some time now

Yeah, Cameron has been a disappointment, and it made me sick watching Clay catch that 60yd bomb vs the Gi'aints the other day.

He's been a huge disappointment for sure, and Cleveland didn't necessarily suffer from him leaving. Gary Barnidge stepped right in and became a very good player for them last year, no matter who the QB was. I'd like to see Sims take the next step this year, and hopefully he will, but as bad as Cameron has been there is no reason to just cut him right now.

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

He's been a huge disappointment for sure, and Cleveland didn't necessarily suffer from him leaving. Gary Barnidge stepped right in and became a very good player for them last year, no matter who the QB was. I'd like to see Sims take the next step this year, and hopefully he will, but as bad as Cameron has been there is no reason to just cut him right now.

Sims was destined to have a good year last year and he had that concussion in week 1 and he was never the same. He is the superior blocker

"Finster wrote:

Yeah, Cameron has been a disappointment, and it made me sick watching Clay catch that 60yd bomb vs the Gi'aints the other day.

I'm not ready to give up on JC yet, and prognosticating whether or not Clay could have picked up this offense any faster is a fool's errand but I agree with the general sentiment here. Seems like a swing and a miss by the FO, especially considering Clay and Tannehill had pretty good chemistry. We'll have to hope Cameron irons out his struggles and turns into the player his salary says he should be.

"invid wrote:

I'm not ready to give up on JC yet, and prognosticating whether or not Clay could have picked up this offense any faster is a fool's errand but I agree with the general sentiment here. Seems like a swing and a miss by the FO, especially considering Clay and Tannehill had pretty good chemistry. We'll have to hope Cameron irons out his struggles and turns into the player his salary says he should be.

we're always hoping that players turn their struggles around. same thing for this run defense. at what point is it just a weakness, and we have to gameplan with or wo it?

"dirtylandry wrote:

I look at Jordan Cameron and I used to see an injury-prone, talented TE. Now I don't see the talent, plus he can't block. I think Miami should consider cutting him, if there are cap savings and using Sims. Sims is a superior blocker and his offensive production, despite limited, might get you more than Jordan. And let's face it, the better blocking, the better, especially with this line (based on history).

all the players on the Miami Dolphins are great and without flaws. you are biased and a hater.

Don't see how Simms could have much downside vis a' vis Jordan.

"invid wrote:

I'm not ready to give up on JC yet, and prognosticating whether or not Clay could have picked up this offense any faster is a fool's errand but I agree with the general sentiment here. Seems like a swing and a miss by the FO, especially considering Clay and Tannehill had pretty good chemistry. We'll have to hope Cameron irons out his struggles and turns into the player his salary says he should be.

several swings and misses like that.

"dirtylandry wrote:

it's more than a drop. He has slowly just diminished from this offense. He cannot block and he is always hurt.
This has been going on for some time now

He didn't miss a single game last year? I don't even remember him being hurt here or ever hearing his name associated with an injury here...

Now, 386yds and 3 tds isn't stellar or anything, and we should expect more, but remember that Lazor didn't call plays for anyone other than landry.

Sometimes the best option is just to stick with a guy and hope he turns it around, especially if the guy has a history of high performance. Realistically what can we do about the position at this point? I like Dominique Jones but are we going to find a magic bullet on waivers? I doubt it. Under different circumstances if Jordan Cameron were put on waivers, we might be looking at him as the possible solution to our problems.

"Phins_Fan_87 wrote:

he sucks. wish we still had clay

He doesn't, but I do still wish we had Clay.

"MikeHoncho wrote:

He doesn't, but I do still wish we had Clay.

Me too. I was going to buy a Clay jersey.

It is what it is at this point. He's going to be inconsistent and probably miss some games, hopefully we can put things together on offense. TE is certainly going to be a position we look at in free agency or the draft next year.

The issue with Jordan Cameron isn't that he's injury prone per se, it's that he's concussion prone. The fear isn't so much him missing a couple of games as it is his career and the potential for a normal healthy life coming suddenly to an end. He's allegedly got a new helmet that is supposed to help but I'm skeptical that changes the game basically being a series of car crashes as far as the body goes.

I would have preferred they released Cameron entirely and just tried to get a Anthony Fasano type season out of Dion Sims and rest on the quality of your receivers this year.

yeah but if they aren't going to use the cap money, then not worth it

When Tannehill calls you out in the media, something is amiss.

Okay, Tannehill didn't exactly call him out, but he did have a few things to say:

“Obviously, we want to make those plays, but he’s going to make a lot of plays for us,” Tannehill said. “He has to keep his head up, keep working and he’ll make it next time.”

...In the only way Tamnehill can call out a guy via the media. Very nicely without rubbing anyone the wrong way.

"Colmax wrote:

When Tannehill calls you out in the media, something is amiss.

Okay, Tannehill didn't exactly call him out, but he did have a few things to say:

...In the only way Tamnehill can call out a guy via the media. Very nicely without rubbing anyone the wrong way.

Just sounds like he was asked about the drop and was answering the question.

"MikeHoncho wrote:

Just sounds like he was asked about the drop and was answering the question.

I left a nugget out in that Tannehill was quoted as saying he wanted Cameron to "get rolling".

The quote in my initial post seemed like it was afterward.