Discovering Neil Young...Help

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maynardmaynardNew MemberOP
May 22, 2010, 03:42 AM

so for whatever reason i never really cared for neil young. i guess i just thought he was a bit soft lol

tonight i was at a "movie in the park" thing they do around here where they play old movies on inflatable screens as like a picnic type thing. pretty cool.

anyway, after i set up and began sipping my spiked drink, i was listening to some of the music being played beforehand. i realized it was neil young and i realized that it was awesome lol

it was none of his really famous stuff, just really chill

i go on to wikipedia to try to find what i heard earlier and i find that the guy must have put out literally 1000 songs. i was hoping the knowledgeable ones hear could help me wade through some of it

i did find one. its called "vampire blues" off the "on the beach" album

i also recall one slow, organ heavy sound that ends with him on the harmonica that kind of blew my mind

a lot of the stuff i liked had bass lines that were subdued, but would then pop out every other line (help me pagan)

im guessing the stuff my ear likes and the stuff i heard is probably not of the crosby stills and nash variety, but then i saw that stills played the keyboard

you may not be able to help me find the songs, but at least to that sort of style

thanks

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NaboCaneNaboCaneNew Member
May 22, 2010, 05:52 AM

For the most part, I don't care for Neil Young much; but his Harvest Moon album is sublime.

And chicks dig it. :yes:

unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
May 22, 2010, 09:11 AM

horse with no name is a great song just to chill and drink to.
hey hey my my is more of a rocker song but definately at least worth a listen to.
And of course rockin in the free world

We got a thousand points of light
For the homeless man
We got a kinder, gentler,
Machine gun hand
We got department stores and toilet paper
Got styrofoam boxes for the ozone layer
Got a man of the people, says keep hope alive
Got fuel to burn, got roads to drive.

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maynardmaynardNew Member
May 23, 2010, 12:52 AM

im going to check those out. there has to be some other neil young fans in here

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NaboCaneNaboCaneNew Member
May 23, 2010, 12:55 AM

"unluckyluciano wrote:

horse with no name is a great song just to chill and drink to.
hey hey my my is more of a rocker song but definately at least worth a listen to.
And of course rockin in the free world

"A Horse with No Name" is a song by the band America. It was their first and most successful single, released in early 1972, topping the charts in several countries...

...The song's resemblance to some of Neil Young's work aroused some controversy. "I know that virtually everyone, on first hearing, assumed it was Neil," Bunnell says. "I never fully shied away from the fact that I was inspired by him. I think it's in the structure of the song as much as in the tone of his voice. It did hurt a little, because we got some pretty bad backlash. I've always attributed it more to people protecting their own heroes more than attacking me." By coincidence, it was "A Horse With No Name" that replaced Young's "Heart of Gold" at the #1 spot on the U.S. pop chart...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Horse_with_No_Name

:wink2:

KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
May 23, 2010, 01:07 AM

Live Rust
ugliest chord in rock ever
i don't hear it often but... enjoy

YouTube- Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Hey, Hey, My My (Into The Black)

Boik14Boik14subscriber
May 23, 2010, 01:42 AM

check out the mirror ball cd. Peace and love is pretty awesome. Great song to drive around to. The Downtown is very 70's ish but its a chill song. Nabo mentioned Harvest moon and its pretty good. His early stuff with Buffalo Springfield precludes me but Ive heard some and it sounded ok, I just have to be in the mood for it.

Dolphin1184Dolphin1184New Member
May 23, 2010, 02:29 AM

YouTube- Neil Young - Southern Man (After The Goldrush)

Section126Section126luxury_box
May 23, 2010, 12:42 PM

Neil Young is great...but if you ever watch one of his concerts...he has one of the most self indulgent and boring guitar solos ever performed.

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May 24, 2010, 02:03 AM

Musically I like a lot of his work, but he has this really undergrad sense of politics that he lets loose into his lyrics. Just doesn't have the sense of a Bob Dylan or Pete Townsend when it comes to writing 'meaningful' lyrics and his work would be better if he avoided it.

And since someone has posted "Southern Man", I feel obliged to post probably the greatest F*** you song ever written.

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Dolphin1184Dolphin1184New Member
May 24, 2010, 04:18 PM

My favorite song from Crosby Stills and Nash: (If I am not mistaken, Young was in the band when they made this song).

YouTube- Crosby Stills & Nash - Teach Your Children

anlgpanlgpNew Member
May 24, 2010, 04:32 PM

After The Goldrush is a good album.

"Section126 wrote:

Neil Young is great...but if you ever watch one of his concerts...he has one of the most self indulgent and boring guitar solos ever performed.

to me a self indulgent guitar solo has little or nothing to do with the music and is more about showmanship than anything else.

boring is dependent on opinion.

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PaganPaganforum_veteran
May 24, 2010, 05:18 PM

He's hit or miss with me. Some songs are amazing, some his voice is like nails on a blackboard.

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anlgpanlgpNew Member
May 24, 2010, 05:19 PM

"Pagan wrote:

He's hit or miss with me. Some songs are amazing, some his voice is like nails on a blackboard.

all of his songs sound like his voice is nails on a blackboard :lol:

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NaboCaneNaboCaneNew Member
May 24, 2010, 07:40 PM

"Pagan wrote:

He's hit or miss with me. Some songs are amazing, some his voice is like nails on a blackboard.

"anlgp wrote:

all of his songs sound like his voice is nails on a blackboard :lol:

:lol: So true.

Young belongs in that category of truly great songwriters who should let other, better singers interpret his work; like Tom Waits and Kris Kristofferson.

Harvest Moon, though is an example of him being able to keep it understated to excellent effect, and his normally grating voice doesn't overpower the delicate beauty of the music.

Conner Oberst, whose band is called Bright Eyes, operates in much the same fashion, and is at least as brilliant a tunesmith as Young—more, in my opinion.

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May 24, 2010, 07:48 PM

Philadelphia

anlgpanlgpNew Member
May 24, 2010, 07:57 PM

"Sethdaddy8 wrote:

Philadelphia

Flyers kick some serious ass!

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GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Jun 16, 2010, 03:43 PM

Neil Young is my all-time favorite. Period. I suggest you sift through his work via albums, and not individual songs. That said, here's some guidance:

Most Accessible
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969) - This is a great rock record with Crazy Horse. There are some hits ("Cinnamon Girl") and some long jams ("Cowgirl in the Sand" and "Down by the River").
After the Goldrush (1970) - Heartbreakingly beautiful record. Every song is a gem. Country/Folk masterpiece.
Harvest (1972) - His most popular record. "Heart of Gold" and "Old Man" were big hits. Very polished. Very mainstream.

The Dirty Stuff
Tonight's the Night (1975) - My favorite. Sounds like day 9 of a 10 day coke and tequilla bender. Beautifully shattered.
On The Beach (1974) - Phenominal songwriting. This record encapsulates the California post-hippie world.
American Stars and Bars (1977) - More country. Still rocking.

Other Greats
Zuma (1975) - His guitar playing is top-knotch
Rust Never Sleeps (1979) This is a great starting point. 1/2 the record is solo acoustic, the other half is with Crazy Horse. Features my favorite Neil song, "Powderfinger".
Unplugged (1993) - Neil did MTV's unplugged. The set spanned his entire career. Brilliant stuff.

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

maynardmaynardNew Member
Jun 17, 2010, 12:55 AM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

Neil Young is my all-time favorite. Period. I suggest you sift through his work via albums, and not individual songs. That said, here's some guidance:

Most Accessible
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969) - This is a great rock record with Crazy Horse. There are some hits ("Cinnamon Girl") and some long jams ("Cowgirl in the Sand" and "Down by the River").
After the Goldrush (1970) - Heartbreakingly beautiful record. Every song is a gem. Country/Folk masterpiece.
Harvest (1972) - His most popular record. "Heart of Gold" and "Old Man" were big hits. Very polished. Very mainstream.

The Dirty Stuff
Tonight's the Night (1975) - My favorite. Sounds like day 9 of a 10 day coke and tequilla bender. Beautifully shattered.
On The Beach (1974) - Phenominal songwriting. This record encapsulates the California post-hippie world.
American Stars and Bars (1977) - More country. Still rocking.

Other Greats
Zuma (1975) - His guitar playing is top-knotch
Rust Never Sleeps (1979) This is a great starting point. 1/2 the record is solo acoustic, the other half is with Crazy Horse. Features my favorite Neil song, "Powderfinger".
Unplugged (1993) - Neil did MTV's unplugged. The set spanned his entire career. Brilliant stuff.

ooooh. i sort of gave up. i feel a bit more inspired now.

im very non-country, but i can try. the stuff i heard and really like was organ-heavy. i would like to start with that. suggestions?

i dont really listen to a lot of indie stuff, but it sounds like a lot of indie players are directly inspired by neil young. i can almost imagine his stuff coming out now and hipsters thinking its the most amazing stuff they have ever heard

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GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Jun 17, 2010, 10:09 AM

"maynard wrote:

ooooh. i sort of gave up. i feel a bit more inspired now.

im very non-country, but i can try. the stuff i heard and really like was organ-heavy. i would like to start with that. suggestions?

i dont really listen to a lot of indie stuff, but it sounds like a lot of indie players are directly inspired by neil young. i can almost imagine his stuff coming out now and hipsters thinking its the most amazing stuff they have ever heard

Organ-heavy? Try "Like a Hurricane". Killer guitar solos? Try "Cortez the Killer" and "Powderfinger".

Neil has really inspired generations of musicians. 15 years ago he was dubbed the "Godfather of Grunge". Now, pissants like Bright Eyes (who couldn't hold Neil's jock) are influenced by him too. That's okay by me. The width and depth of his catalogue is astounding.

Maybe you should just get Live Rust. Its a live album with Crazy Horse. Not very country, lotsa rocking, and some keyboards.

Neil is the best. Enjoy!

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

NaboCaneNaboCaneNew Member
Jun 17, 2010, 03:56 PM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

Organ-heavy? Try "Like a Hurricane". Killer guitar solos? Try "Cortez the Killer" and "Powderfinger".

Neil has really inspired generations of musicians. 15 years ago he was dubbed the "Godfather of Grunge". Now, pissants like Bright Eyes (who couldn't hold Neil's jock) are influenced by him too. That's okay by me. The width and depth of his catalogue is astounding.

Maybe you should just get Live Rust. Its a live album with Crazy Horse. Not very country, lotsa rocking, and some keyboards.

Neil is the best. Enjoy!

:rolleyes:

Boik14Boik14subscriber
Jun 17, 2010, 04:43 PM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

Organ-heavy? Try "Like a Hurricane". Killer guitar solos? Try "Cortez the Killer" and "Powderfinger".

Neil has really inspired generations of musicians. 15 years ago he was dubbed the "Godfather of Grunge". Now, pissants like Bright Eyes (who couldn't hold Neil's jock) are influenced by him too. That's okay by me. The width and depth of his catalogue is astounding.

Maybe you should just get Live Rust. Its a live album with Crazy Horse. Not very country, lotsa rocking, and some keyboards.

Neil is the best. Enjoy!

If you want to hear an amazing version of Cortez The Killer try the Dave Matthews Live in Central Park CD. He partnered up with Warren Hayes for that and I never liked the song so much. It went from being "eh" to being an all time favorite of mine in a matter of 10 minutes. It was even better being there live but the CD cut isnt bad at all. :up:

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Jun 21, 2010, 10:39 AM

"Boik14 wrote:

If you want to hear an amazing version of Cortez The Killer try the Dave Matthews Live in Central Park CD. He partnered up with Warren Hayes for that and I never liked the song so much. It went from being "eh" to being an all time favorite of mine in a matter of 10 minutes. It was even better being there live but the CD cut isnt bad at all. :up:

Comparing Dave Matthews to Neil Young is like comparing Jimmy Buffett to Jimi Hendrix. Its just wrong. And yes, I understand that Warren Hayes took the solos and not Dave Matthews, but it still rubs me the wrong way.

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

Boik14Boik14subscriber
Jun 21, 2010, 11:17 AM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

Comparing Dave Matthews to Neil Young is like comparing Jimmy Buffett to Jimi Hendrix. Its just wrong. And yes, I understand that Warren Hayes took the solos and not Dave Matthews, but it still rubs me the wrong way.

Well I happen to like Dave so......yeah Ill just let that slide because saying I disagree is an understatement. :yes:

dolfan22dolfan22subscriber
Jul 21, 2010, 07:24 PM

"unluckyluciano wrote:

horse with no name is a great song just to chill and drink to.
hey hey my my is more of a rocker song but definately at least worth a listen to.
And of course rockin in the free world

A horse with no name isn't a Neil Young song. It is by a band called America. It does sound like Neil in the early 70's though.

Neil Young is a musical god.

He has one of the biggest , most diverse collection of great music of modern times. Seriously.

If you only had connected him to his acoustic phase you have truly missed one of rock's great , vengeful guitarists that has influenced Pearl Jam , Nirvana et all.

He is a singer-songwriter musician of extroardinary influence.

Home town boy , so we take great pride in him of course , but he can flat out rock , and has tons of great songs to demonstrate this.

Go to Amazon.com and browse him in the music section , you will not be dissapointed .

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