I'd love to hear a rational explanation for how Philbin isn't doing a decent job.

 

6-5 and underachieving yet again...

 

His regime is great at coaching talent up, no doubt about it.

He also has poor instincts and is rather bad at gambling in key situations, that hinders his performance.

 

Philbin is TOAST after the season is over. Some people here just can't grasp that reality yet. They will...

 

HELL No!!! I don't want that fat loser anywhere near our team. Not HC, DC, or Waterboy...

 

I clearly said "rational". Don't come with the weak sauce.

 

Philbin is GONE next year. Just let go man. Lol


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Player went AWOL, quit the team, and sabotaged a season.

Players speaking to media and citing rifts with Bill Lazor.

There are a lot more rational explanations of his shortcomings than what he brings to the table.

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Cant finish games, sometimes dont start games well, never play a complete game. Poor decision making, poor time management, poor player management. Nixes OC's calls, plays to lose - I like the guy, he seems like a fine person. However, i dont see him as a head coach. Maybe he's a better coordinator.

 

I think he overrides his staff with what he wants to see, normally caution/safe, vs what his staff does best.

He opens the door to their creativity a crack, then slams it shut at the end of the games. Do think our halftime adjustments are the best I've seen here since the Shula days, also think when it is crunch time he won't let his players and coordinators just get after the opponent.

 

My biggest complaint about him is his player rotation, and who he gives a shot to and who he doesn't. Poor player development is going to be his downfall, and poor general coaching skills is his current downfall.

 

Yeah, I'm still not sold on Philbin...but I'm really not sold on a wholesale replacement of the coaching staff if Philbin is fired.

 

There has been tremendous player development under Philbin. It's part of his system and Philbin's strength. We've never had this kind of success in the history of the team.

The fact that these young Olinemen come in and contribute is a miracle only seen in New England. Dallas Thomas was a bum and he is playing well. Go down the list, James, Tannehill, Miller, Williams, Sims, Vernon, Jenkins, . . . Mind you, none of these players were ever great to begin with. So the fact we are juicing out of them the kind of production were are says a lot about the quality of the system in place now.

 

Who else are we going to hire? Philbin is doing fine...The players are developing, especially Tannehill....He gets some credit for that imo.

 

He's 21-22, sub .500, in his career.

 

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Some people don't understand reality, until it smacks them in the face in a couple of months.

 

Are you including yourself in this theory of yours? Can we all expect you to stop posting when Philbin is still around? As long as the team keeps showing a chance of beating the top teams in the league, I really don't see Ross shaking things up.

 

No. I'll still be here. I'm like herpes. I never go away. Lol

Seriously, Philbin is as good as GONE if we don't make the playoffs. And the chance of us making it are slim to none...

 

It's wishful thinking. There's no way you can guarantee this stuff. Tannehill is playing at a crazy high level, the offense is really looking good. Defense needs some pieces. I really don't see Ross changing anything.

 

Crazy high level? We're 6-5 dude...

 

....and that's why Ross said he was no longer interested in pursuing Harbaugh? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about; Philbin will be back.

 

Care to make a wager?

 

I'd make a very big wager, but I'm not going to take your money just because you're ignorant. Maybe if you read some of the statements released within the past few weeks from the person in your avatar, you'd have a clue about how Ross values Philbin.

 

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I hope Philbin is gone as much as anyone but some of you are going to learn how to talk to people who don't agree with you.

 

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The TEAM would be at worst 8-2 if the defense played as it should. You can't really lay the blame for the record at Tannehill's feet.

 

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Both Jets and the Bills would be a better career move for Joe. Those teams acquire better talent, he'd be ahead from the start there.

 

"As it should" means what exactly? They're a top-5-10 defense at this point...are you saying they should be top-1?

 

49ers would be another perfect spot for Joe, going back to WCO, with that talent, and Joe's system and staff. Woo, that would be awesome.
I would narrow it down to 9ers and Panthers. Those teams have good Ds and good front office, and young QBs so the job is also challenging but not as challenging to the point of everything needs fixing like down here.

 

You know, you guys can think whatever you want about the coaches and that's fine.

I think, at this moment, the team is heading in the right direction. I like Lazor's offense and I like Coyle's defense. I like our QB. I like our Head Coach. I don't think the reason why we might fall short of the playoffs is the coaching staff. At all. It is the fault of some key injuries, a couple of suspensions, and lacking that one great play-maker on offense.

I want to see Tannehill and this offense operate with a year's experience. I want to see what it looks like when Lazor can add a few more wrinkles. I want to see if Hickey can find that one playmaker we need and if he can shore up the guard positions.

I want to see Coyle's defense operate without two key players being suspended at the beginning of the season, and I want to see if they can stay healthy. When we're healthy, we have a dominant defense.

So... if Joe Philbin gets fired, I don't get to see any of that. It would be an absolute shame. I don't want to start over again and again and again. I am sick to death of it as a fan. It is absolutely ridiculous to break up a team that is trending upward, and I am DAMN glad some of you guys aren't in a position to make that decision.

I have a strong sense Phibin and all the coaches will be back (pending Head Coaching hires), and in my opinion, they all absolutely deserve to be back.

 

I really wouldn't say I approve in the job he's doing, but... Seeing the progression of our young QB this year in this new system, seeing the draft picks brought in with Coach and GM supposedly on the same page, seeing the defense play well, makes me nervous a bit about change. I know the record isn't there yet, but that to me is more about a young team, that hasn't learned how to close out tough games yet. I know nodoby likes excuses, but I think with us being fully healthy, and Denver too for that matter, we would have won that game Sunday. It's irrelevant, I know... but the progression in the talent on the roster is there to see.

That being said, Philbin leaves alot to be desired in game mangement, time management etc, etc. Which makes me think he's really holding this team back and we could potentially be better than our record says we are. I've said it in other places, I think he was the right guy to get us to where we are now, but I don't think he's the right guy to get us where we want to go. He's improved a bit himself, but I think we need someone who's a better leader, and motivator, and better at instilling confidence in these guys to get where we need to go. The hard part, is addition by subtraction here. If we could replace Philbin, keep the talented assistants and co-ordinators that we have, then I'm in. I'm not in for starting completely over again. Not after just installing a new offense. I'd rather let that grow one more year.

Im torn! :lol:

 

Why whats wrong with Lilly:wink2:

 

It means, live up to their billing. Play like the supposed top 5 defense that people want to say they are. The defense has been awful against good teams, except the Chargers. Green Bay the bottom line is stop the receiver IN BOUNDS we win. Detroit, stop the last second pass to a back. Denver, so many. And there are other plays in Detroit and Green Bay that they should have stopped. Third downs, can they stop one when it matters...Or stop one at all? The defense is, frankly, the biggest disappointment for me. If I don't trust them to make plays when the game is on the line, how do you think the offense and coaches feel?

 

If you read your own comment slowly three times, maybe you'll see how silly all of that sounds. The defense has made dozens of clutch plays to win ballgames this year, including several in our losses where the offense couldn't move the ball at all in the 4th quarter. Just because they were on the field last doesn't mean that they didn't play a excellent game, which is clearly evident in 9 of our 11 outings.