Does anybody think we will draft a QB?

yeah!

Late rounds yes.

Maybe. But not in the first round, first day, or even early second day. Probably with a sixth rounder.

Why woould we not use the first pick to take a QB and if we were not to take a QB what would we take.

"Silverphin wrote:

Maybe. But not in the first round, first day, or even early second day. Probably with a sixth rounder.

sixth rounder? Thats funny, I guess Trent Green and his 7 interceptions are all we need. Oh yeah don't forget Lemon with his 4 turnovers a game. Finally we can definitely go all the way with Beck fumbling every snap and never throwing a touch down. Sure the sixth round sounds great.

Hopefully we will have a new coach and GM that knows how important the quarterback postion is and not some of these fans that are still sleeping.

"Marino13 wrote:

Why woould we not use the first pick to take a QB and if we were not to take a QB what would we take.

Well, to speak for myself, and in my opinion...

1). When you draft quarterback in the first two rounds of draft, that basically should make him the QB of the future. That QB deserves a good amount of time before we even think about what QB we should take.

2). Well, that depends on what we do with the pick. If we keep it, then we should pick Glenn Dorsey improve of running stopping ability and pass rush as well, but mostly the run stopping (or lack thereof). And if we trade it in a scenario, like say... the popular Dallas scenario (Their two 1st Rounders, second rounder, and their 2009 1st rounder), then I think we should pick a pass rusher like Quentin Moses and a cornerback in the first round.

"finfan1966 wrote:

sixth rounder? Thats funny, I guess Trent Green and his 7 interceptions are all we need. Oh yeah don't forget Lemon with his 4 turnovers a game. Finally we can definitely go all the way with Beck fumbling every snap and never throwing a touch down. Sure the sixth round sounds great.

Hopefully we will have a new coach and GM that knows how important the quarterback postion is and not some of these fans that are still sleeping.

John Beck is still a rookie. If every GM thought the way you did, Peyton would have been gone after his 28 interceptions, so would John Elway after only going 7 and 14. I could go on.

i have to say yes and maybe right away, beck looked very small on the field and physically overmatched, i am concerned about his physical skills in the NFL.

"Silverphin wrote:

John Beck is still a rookie. If every GM thought the way you did, Peyton would have been gone after his 28 interceptions, so would John Elway after only going 7 and 14. I could go on.

There is one problem with your argument about Elway and Peyton. They were drafted in the first round. Thats why their teams were patient. Beck is a long way off from winning games for us.

If we do the trade scenario with Dallas, we HAVE to take a QB with one of those picks. If Beck fails, we have no other options on the table. If Cam stays, its likely we will, considering in SD he had Brees and Rivers. I think its just smart to have 2 QBs in development. I mean, for example, if the Jets hadn't put all their faith in Pennington, they couldve had an insurance QB, something we dont have.

insurance policy is a good idea, there is alot of time to see if there is a franchise QB out there, if there is you have to draft him

I would say get that guy out of Hawaii. We might be able to trade down and still get him.

"finfan1966 wrote:

I would say get that guy out of Hawaii. We might be able to trade down and still get him.

How many Hawaiians do we need? Were going to be the Miami Rainbows! :lol:

draft the guy who can be a franchise QB, if it is first or seventh, then you have two QB'S that have potential and you see what happens, we might have to play a season with Cleo next year, who elso is out there? mcnabb

"Bonedoc7777 wrote:

draft the guy who can be a franchise QB, if it is first or seventh, then you have two QB'S that have potential and you see what happens, we might have to play a season with Cleo next year, who elso is out there? mcnabb

McNabb would not work out for us. He would be another Culpepper. Not to mention this is not a West Coast offense.

I hope its not Mueller making the first pick for us. Who knows what will happen, maybe another special teamer or a running back we don't need.

"finfan1966 wrote:

sixth rounder? Thats funny, I guess Trent Green and his 7 interceptions are all we need. Oh yeah don't forget Lemon with his 4 turnovers a game. Finally we can definitely go all the way with Beck fumbling every snap and never throwing a touch down. Sure the sixth round sounds great.

Hopefully we will have a new coach and GM that knows how important the quarterback postion is and not some of these fans that are still sleeping.

WE WILL NEVER GET A FRANCHISE QB UNLESS WE QUIT BEING CHEAP AND PONY UP SOMETHING MORE THAN A SECOND ROUND PICK BUT I MUST ADMIT IT WOULDNT MATTER IF WE DRAFTED ONE THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE ARE STILL GOING TO STINK UP THE PLACE BUT WE DO NEED ONE I DON'T THINK BECK WILL EVER BE THE REASON WE WIN GAMES AND YOU NEED A QB WHO WILL PUT THE OFFENSE ON HIS BACK AND WIN GAMES FOR US I KNOW WE HAVENT SEEN MUCH OF BECK BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING SPECIAL FROM HIM IN COLLEGE EITHER

There is no QB that offers "#1 pick" value. We are taking Long or Dorsey.

I would like to see us grab Brennan if he's available at #32 though.

If we have a new head coach, he will likely want to draft his own QB.

"Marino13 wrote:

Do you guys think we willl draft a QB? I know what some of you will say we have John Beck. But some of you also want to draft a RB we have Ronnie who is proven.

I would say "no" as all of the top QB prospects seem to be the same player, large pocket passers with big arms that are careless with the football.

Woodson had the nice string of games without an interceptions, then when the streak was broken, the Int's came in bunches.

Ditto Ryan at BC

Brohm looks like the best of the crop, his team played worse this season and he managed to play through the adversity.

A Qb like Ainge is interesting later in the draft..

"unifiedtheory wrote:

There is no QB that offers "#1 pick" value. We are taking Long or Dorsey.

I would like to see us grab Brennan if he's available at #32 though.

I would not mind Glenn Dorsey but we NEED a QB bad.Dorsey the only person I would take over a QB but then if choose Dorsey we need to some wheeling and dealing to get another pick in the first round to get

Top QBs:
Brian Brohm
Matt Ryan
Colt Brennan
John David Booty
Chad Henne
and Andre Woodson

Ryan or Brohm would be a great signal that this team is serious about getting the future right. There are virtually no other QBs worthy of being taken. Flacco has zero mobility, Brennan has no experience in an NFL type offense. Woodson is boom or bust

We have the rest of the draft and free agency to address defense and offense. Draft a QB with our first and spend the rest of the draft adressing our other needs

"finfan1966 wrote:

There is one problem with your argument about Elway and Peyton. They were drafted in the first round. Thats why their teams were patient. Beck is a long way off from winning games for us.

how do you know that for a fact? Who cares if they were first rounders, the point is that Beck is expected to be our future qb. Joe Montana was benched first year and Elway was benched second year and they turned out pretty good.. Beck has only started a few games this year so you cant just say that hes gonna suck arse for the rest of his career and should not get a chance. Give some time. But since mueller beleives that it is best to draft a qb every year, i think we should take henne as late as possible

I say draft Dennis Dixon. He'll likely drop because of his knee injury but he is very talented. Just let him take the year off to rehab his knee.