Good hypothetical. He was gassed on the last drive against the Patriots for sure.

 

Too tired to look up the link, but read an article earlier today saying that Henne was 15-17 in the first half, then went 4-12 in the second half.

I don't think those numbers are quite right. I remember posting his halftime stats during the game thread and I could have sworn he had thrown 19 passes in the first half.

But if mirrors what you are illustrating JDang...it does seem that Henne fades in the 4th quarter

 

If I had to guess, which is all we can really do... I'd guess that its not the fact he's getting tired, its the fact that the opposing teams Defense has adjusted to our offense, and we've done nothing on offense to adjust. Given the shaky coaching of this team, that would be my guess. Combined with the fact that this team, in close games seems to lack the confidence to get the job done all over the field. They haven't learned to win those close games, they haven't got the confidence to do it, whether thats due to sloppy practices, poor coaching, poor motivation, who knows really. When teams are put into clutch situations, theyve got to have the confidence in their abilities, and their schemes to get things done. We lack that. It's shown in our defensive collapses, and most recently the collapse of the offense on the last drive against Cleveland.

Just my 2 cents...

 

Maybe the team gets tired and his performance is a reflection of that,the O line and the D line sure have looked gassed.

 

I would explain this year as he's probably just getting punished by opposing defenses all game long taking hits. But considering last years numbers, I'm not sure that consideration is relevant.

 

I just don't think we're very good at making adjustments at all. I can't recall any game where we looked different in the 2nd half as opposed to the first. Sparano's mantra seems to be "execute it properly, and we'll win" ... well, that doesn't work if the other teams adjusts to what you're doing..

Now, if Henne has some more control at the LOS, then perhaps that responsibility falls to him on the field. Although I doubt he can essentially adjust the game plan from the huddle.

 

I'm inclined to agree with this and what Brandon similarly said.

2010
1st Quarter 81.9
2nd Quarter 68.7
3rd Quarter 95.6
4th Quarter 55.6


To me, it seems that, when we had time to plan ahead & script plays (before the game leading to the 1st quarter and during halftime to open the 3rd quarter), Henne played good and is playing great now.

However, during the 2nd & 4th quarter, where on-the-fly adjustments need to be made, we failed to successfully do so.

So it seems like when we had time to plan ahead, Henne played well, but then again he was Henning's puppet. I lay most of the blame on Henning b/c he basically assumed absolute control of the offense and play calling, giving Henne no option to make true adjustments or call plays at the line in the 2nd & 4th quarter when defenses were obviously picking up on our tendencies and/or formations. I think there was something mentioned that Henning would rather call the plays himself and have a dead play than let his QB make calls at the line. If the OC isn't making proper adjustments, then this obviously means there's likely to be more "dead plays" in the 2nd & 4th quarter, leading to a decline in passing production and efficiency.

Henning doing this also hindered Henne's hurry up and 2 minute drill (2nd qtr & 4th qtr) b/c this is a critical time of the game where the QB should be capable of doing more of his thinking, adapting, and chess playing in a way that his OC simply can not b/c the OC isn't behind the center surveying the defense prior to the ball being snapped while the pace of the offense is hastened. The QB should not be slowed down or handicapped by his OC in these situations, and he shouldn't be forced to make chicken **** out of a dead play even though every play counts. That's why I'm not surprised our offense struggled in getting 4th quarter wins..... and that's why I'm not surprised Henne has issues in the 4th qtr now because this is the first time he's had the ability to be more than just a puppet. So IMO this is a new learning experience for him, and as such it will take a little time developing. If Henning had given him some freedom last year to develop the thinking part of his game, then I don't think we some of the problems we see now. We still might see some of course, but I think Henne would be further along in this phase of the game than he currently is.

 

He's tired because he's running for his life.

 

You would :tongue2:

 

You mean it was proven that we had more blockers per play than rushers. I also think rdhstlr23 was talking about this year.

 

Yes, he gets tired. He also poops. Just like the rest of us! :wink2:

 

My ex would like a word with you.

 

Cool!!!

Is she hot?

 

He had a long time? Did you watch us play? lol. He was one of the most sacked QBs in the league during the final third of our season.

And since when does having extra blockers equate to actually having sufficient time to throw compared to the rest of the league. Perhaps the rest of the league didn't need extra blockers to have the same amount of time to throw, which also means other QBs would have more receivers out on these routes.

 

Depends on how many beers you've had.

 

I don't think he gets tired I just think games where the Dolphins are asking him to throw 40 or 45 times in the game are not games where he nor the Dolphins have been doing well...hence the need to throw 40 to 45 times.

He's not one of those quarterbacks where if you give them 40 or 45 throws you're anxious to see the results because he should reward you with the win.

 

Maybe he should quit the dipping during games.

 

Not as tired as I get of watching his offense.

 

Pressure situations, come-from-behind situations, two-minute, etc.

You need a lot more evidence than this to suggest that a pocket passer is getting tired. That's not a very common issue for QBs to face at all, let alone pocket QBs.

 

It's pure speculation, but my guess is that opponents are doing a better job of adjusting than we are.

 

I thought we made good in-game adjustments in 2008.

 

Or Daboll. I see Sparano as a grinder. He's a guy who puts in the work, but probably not one who makes quick adjustments. Every person has weaknesses. Shula didn't succeed once he lost Beathard. The people who succeed are the ones who figured out how to maximize strengths and minimize weaknesses. That's why the answer is rarely to blow it all up start over. This offseason fans wanted to dump Henne and bring in Orton. I saw it as simply bringing in more of the same. And now that we're seeing both QBs in new systems, I feel that assessment was spot on. Now I would replace Henne in a flash with a clear upgrade, but fans have a tendency to just look at the results and place all the blame or credit on one person. It's the same with Sparano. He has strengths and weaknesses. And if we replace him, we'll bring another guy in with different strengths and weaknesses. Will the result be better? Obviously it depends on the guy, but moreso I think it depends on the organization. I think our future success will depend mostly on whether Ireland has the right vision to put complementary pieces in place. IMO Ireland has a decent eye for talent, but I have been critical of how he's failed to address other needs.