I think its a legit question when talking #2 and who would be more efective in that role if given a situation in real game action.

However i will keep him at #2 because i still think he can run some of the things ronnie ran, from the base wildcat, not the spread stuff, the base wildcat..Let him run the sweep to ricky and take it up inside there a few times, let Pat do some of the passes that were implemented for Ronnie, do this to take some carries away from ricky... i think the kid can handle some of what ronnie was doing..

I also think we value keeping the opponent preparing mid week.

 

I'd like to see what White can do as a WR

 

in our current state .... no, it makes no sense to keep him active - make him the emergency QB .... unless, we just have no use for Thigpen -- which at this point would make me ask why we sought him out to begin with.

 

I'd definitely make Thigpen our #2 QB, unless he just doesn't know the playbook yet.

 

If Henne isn't returning to the game, we can activate Thigpen anyway. If Henne is returning, they seem to have enough confidence in White to run the offense for a few snaps.

 

Pat White is the backup QB. Henne goes down, White goes in. He knows the offense and has been here since day one this season. Hes a QB, anyone who watched WVU knows that.

 

is there some rule that says you have to bring in the number 2 QB before the number can even come in? i know that once 3 comes in, thats it, no one else can.


and LMAO at comparing 18 TD passes from a starting QB to 0 from a back up, rookie QB. boy, people will pull anything out of anywhere to make an argument out of nothing.


i dont doubt for 1 second that thigpen mops up if anything were to happen to henne. i think pat white needs to bulk up before he sees any extended playing time.

 

We don't need the Wildcat.

 

i disagree if were talkin about a ronnie brown led wildcat..our offense would be improved if we still had both the player and the formation.

 

But we don't have Brown therefore we don't need it.

 

Exactly...it is as if the fact that Pat White is our #2 Qb is written in Mandarin and incomprehensible.

Say it out loud "Pat White is our backup Quarterback"

See, that is easy enough.

 

i dunno
i like my chances with the guy who threw for 18 tds
ran for 386 yards 6.2 per 3 td's
in 11 starts
in 2008
thigpen is really the back up qb bro

 

Nope, seen this happen a bunch of times, Pat White, is our #2 Qb, one may not like that, one may think Thiggy would be the better Qb, one may think a bunch of things.

However, in the words of Henning, they are happy with White as the backup Qb.

 

Sooo happy that they immediately went out and spent a 5th rounder on Thigpen...

If White is #2, then it's by nothing more than default. Next years TC should straighten out this problem.

 

Should, though I couldn't imagine sacrificing a 2nd round pick for the sake of a 5th round pick in the form of Thigpen who has limited upside.

 

Considering that he has zero experience at the position, I wouldn't expect much anytime soon. This is why I was so against drafting him at all, let alone so early, he's not a good QB prospect and he has no experience at WR. We used a pick on a guy with no position when there were so many other talented players out there and needs to fill. The only place that I could conceivably see him contributing effectively is on returns, otherwise it's going to be a long wait for him to learn another position and get the necessary reps in.

 

of course he says that
when or if henne goes down
god forbid
thigpen would then go into the game
with white the passing game would be gone
that currently listed #3 qb gives you a much better chance

 

Well it's no more of a mystery or a stretch than using the #44 pick on an undersized, spread QB to be your back up......explain that one?

 

1) love the Avvy..."Bah Humbug"...:D

2) White is a fine Qb prospect, and worth developing.

Consider, Henne is the man, we have White and Thiggy as backups, White has ton of upside (he would be a better version of Garrard imho) and Thiggy does have starting experience, develop them both, and have trade fodder 2 or 3 years from now.

Packers did that exact thing for years, and traded Hasselback for a #1 pick, traded Aaron Brooks for a #3 or #4, and I think there was one other Qb they traded off (no not Favre..)

 

Strong arm, decent feet, and intangibles.

 

Id rather Thigpen be our back up than White.

 

For a little guy, maybe....lol

 

Thanks :up:

Completely disagree, he's a poor man's Michael Vick IMO. He's only a big deal because of his ability to run, his accuracy leaves alot to be desired.

Thigpen was a starter on a very bad team, very bad team. I don't think either player will succeed to the level of anything more than a backup QB, but here's to hoping. :ffic:

They had Brunell and traded him and they also had Kurt Warner, though he was released.

 

I know my big fear is that he is going to get tackled and broken in 2. He seems very scrawny and thin. Im not saying that makes him a bad QB, it simply does not put me at ease. The other thing is I have seen him throw the ball twice at most and I do not recall if it was preseason or reg. I recommend he start going to some cuban restaurants and eating moros and ropa vieja and fried plantains everyday, he will be nice and built for next season!!!

 

What accuracy? He hasn't completed a pass in the NFL.

 

That's kind of the point, he looked awful during camp from the reports that we got and that was a knock on him at draft time. We drafted him as a specialty player and he hasn't been able to really contribute even under those circumstances, I'm not sure where he fits on this team a year or two from now.

 

Well L2G, it is not possible to say either way what Pat White's accuracy is, he has only limited snaps, and even less chance to throw the ball or run the base offense.

I suspect we won't know either way until preseason of 2010.

 

We have his whole college career and camp/preseason to look at and judge the quality of his passes, he's going to struggle at this level IMO. It is something that he can improve on with hard work and reps in practice, but even if he does, we still used a very valuable draft pick on a backup QB, that isn't a wise move for a team that has alot of holes.

 

He's thrown what?

5 passes? Two deep passes that are hit or miss no matter who is throwing the ball.

White is a Qb, imho he will make a fine NFL Qb, I can dig that other people don't agree with my opinion and take the absurd position that "he is not a Qb prospect so convert him to Wr where he is even less of a prospect" is a division that cannot, and will not possibly be resolved until 2010, 9 months from now at that, if anyone is game enough to spend 9 months arguing about "Pat White, Wr?" then more power to you.

 

He played what, maybe 2 qtrs in the preseason?

All with the second and third stringers, and even then, he threw very few passes, and even then Qb Coach Lee tinkered with his throwing motion, they did the same for Romo and it took him years to develop.

Give him some time to develop, I suspect we will see an improved White simply because he is willing to put in the work to improve.

 

I'm not saying that he can't develop or rooting against him, I'm just giving my opinion based on what I've seen and read. The kid has accuracy issues and his talent has been blown out of proportion because of his ability to scramble and our use of the WC. Some folks let their minds run crazy when he was drafted, I remember someone predicting that he was going to be ROY.

If he were going to contribute early on offense, the place for him to do it would be the WC or the option, in both cases he hasn't done much of anything. It has to be alarming even to his most devout supporters that he's having trouble making plays with his legs, that's much easier than making plays with his arm, head and vision.

When I talk about drafting him and it being a waste, I'm talking quality of the player and his contributions to this team versus what was out there. You just don't spend high draft picks on part time players who may only see 5 plays a game.

 

Sorry to go off topic, but what I don't understand is, why can't we run the WC with Pat taking the snap and have Ricky as the option he was when Ronnie was taking the snap?

Or even Ricky taking the snap with Ginn/White/Sheets on the option that Ricky was when Brown was taking the snap?

 

And those same reporters were hintng Cameron Wake was "on the cut bubble", inow L2G, not particularly buying into that one.

He did have the nice 33yd run v the Patsies.

But that doesn't particularly bother me, he's a #2 Qb, and a rookie, any production we can get out of him is a sort of bonus, most #2's never see the field.

I think people see "#44 pick! He should do more!"

Instead of " Backup Qb with tons of upside if we develop him".

You do spend high picks on Qb's who you intend to develop, Henne was what? The #55 pick? Where was the clamouring for "Henne needs to do more other than never play"?

Quite the opposite, the argument was Henne would take over for Penny either sometime this year, or to start the year, there was no moaning over what a waste the Henne pick was...

 

No more absurd than thinking we will EVER get the value we need from this pick with him as a back up QB.

His pro day was packed with scouts that were pissed off about him choosing to not run any routes........so maybe the idea isn't as "absurd" as you might think.

 

Henne was always sold as a solid NFL QB prospect......Pat White was being heralded as a "play maker".....big difference

 

And at the Combine he threw better than #5 overall Nacho Sanchez, so yes, that is absurd.

 

Fine QB as in career back up?

 

No....what was absurd is that the Jets drafted Snatchez at #5......doesn't make White anymore of a QB prospect than he ever was

He's the 3rd best QB on this team.....if Brown wasn't injured I'd put him at 4th.

Trying to develop him at something besides QB, isn't absurd. It's our best chance at getting value out of the pick and his best chance to be more than a foot note in this league.