Dolphins@Colts post game threeadd

I called out Sherman for a crappy called game last week and this week was MUCH better. The only mistake was the QB sneak. Otherwise he had me guessing on some plays. Tannehill was laser sharp to start the game, but he was ratteled there in the 3rd qtr with 2 fumbles on consecqutive posessions. After seing that dart to Clay inbetween two receivers, hey I'm a believer. Grimes, man I was calling the D to hold on to one of Cro Magnon Mans errant throws considering we dropped of his 3 int's last year and Grimes finally came through.

I guess you could say Miller is a good committee back if he's leading the committee.

He needed to get at least another series or two today, imo.

not sure why Tannehill has to make a major jump. He's definitely made significant progress IMO. You're assuming that he's approaching his ceiling if you're labeling him as Matt Schaub. I'm optimistic that his ceiling is much higher than Matt Schaub's. whether he achieves it or not will be interesting to see by season's end.

His pocket presence, maddening or not, was improved today.

You thought his ball placement was poor? Every pass won't be a completion. That pass to Clay was the best placed ball I've seen by a Dolphin QB in my life.

And, by the way, if we are saying a guy hasn't made the jump by his 38th start (college AND pro combined), then we may not be appreciating just how quickly this kid is really developing.

High ceiling, imo.

How will he look by his 4th year?

"Alex44 wrote:

You thought his ball placement was poor? Every pass won't be a completion. That pass to Clay was the best placed ball I've seen by a Dolphin QB in my life.

I think he had a lot of good ball placement today, and a few notably poor ones too. Like the deep ball to Wallace that could have been a TD. Or a little flare out to Lamar that had Lamar diving to make the catch for a loss.

I wouldn;t say he had poor placement, overall, today though.

"Bpk wrote:

I think he had a lot of good ball placement today, and a few notably poor ones too. Like the deep ball to Wallace that could have been a TD. Or a little flare out to Lamar that had Lamar diving to make the catch for a loss.

I wouldn;t say he had poor placement, overall, today though.

I didn't find that poor. Not perfect, but not poor. If you watch the play again there is a safety looming over top. If he wings it further Wallace might get clocked and not even catch the ball. He could have thrown it a bit further, but in that situation I'll take the 100% guaranteed completion.

I'm not saying Tannehill won't make a major jump or there is a specific time period for it, that's where he is IMO.

"Alex44 wrote:

You thought his ball placement was poor? Every pass won't be a completion. That pass to Clay was the best placed ball I've seen by a Dolphin QB in my life.

Not necessarily today, but in general from what we've seen of him since last year.

Tannehill needs to use his legs more. Gotta improve his pocket awareness first, though.

"Disgustipate wrote:

I'm not saying Tannehill won't make a major jump or there is a specific time period for it, that's where he is IMO.

Not necessarily today, but in general from what we've seen of him since last year.

That is a bit confusing to me. Every QB should try and improve their placement, but this year so far I haven't seen many poor ones. Even his INT against the Browns wasn't due to that. Of course last year it wasn't great you're right, but he was a rookie with no weapons after all.

I think I've seen a huge jump in his play. Not to say he is entirely there yet, but I'd have a LOT more questions about Luck if I only saw the first two games of this season.

Agree with the rest of your post though, good write up.

anyone seen heath evans ? ray rice rushed for 36 yards on 13 carries....and baltimore barely beat cleveland 14-6 on their super bowl win opener...these are 2 quality wins

The pass rush by the colts improved early in the 2nd half, and they kept Thomas in there even tho his blocking was suspect... He was a part of both "fumbles"... If you call that first one a fumble...

Donald Thomas for the Colts really can't stay healthy can he?

"Disgustipate wrote:

I know it's just a bump in the track on the train to the fellation station, but I love seeing that goony ass neckbeard Andrew Luck lose. Especially to the Dolphins.

Ryan Tannehill had a pretty good game, but it seems like at least on the information we have he hasn't quite made a major jump. The major difference is that his weapons are helping him out more. I think he's pretty safely a Matt Schaub quality kind of guy, but he needs work on his placement and his pocket presence especially. God that was maddening at times today.

The run game was nice, but I've got the suspicion that Lamar Miller is an excellent by-committee back rather than a feature back, that should be splitting carries with a guy.

Mike Wallace had a quality game, and I liked that he did the fundamental stuff pretty well. I doubt he's ever going to be a great player in that regard, but he's been at least solid when it comes to the bread and butter. But he made the plays he was brought here for as well this week.

Charles Clay has gone from a guy who was written off(too early) to a guy who may potentially be the solution to the position. He's still got his warts, but so far he's been as good as I'd hoped Dustin Keller would have been.

The offensive line is still a mixed bag, but the run blocking was much improved and Tannehill had time to throw despite the sacks. There are mistakes being made, but they're not being mitigated nearly as well as they could be either.

I'm not a great Paul Soliai fan, but he was playing well this year and I hate to see him go down. I do hope the error of Randall Kheeston's release will be reverse with this, though.

The defensive line wasn't particularly good vs. a suspect Colts offensive line today. Cameron Wake wasn't a big factor against a good RT, Andrew Luck had a pretty clear pocket.

I love how frequently that Dion Jordan has gotten to the quarterback this early in his career(and with a shoulder injury to boot). I just hate what he does when he gets to the quarterback. The ****?

Phillip Wheeler had a heck of a performance today, even without that game winning snap.

Two games in and I think our FA swap of linebackers looks pretty good. They're not as good in the run game, but they've made a conscious decision to shift their defense, and it's been working so far. There's very much a trade-off, and I think giving up tight end yardage is a downside of that. So far I'd take the tradeoff, though.

Brent Grimes looks like he's pretty well back to what he was at Atlanta at this point, and should be given a longer term contract. The guy is just ridiculous physically.

Jimmy Wilson had not so good a game, just like last year vs. the Colts.

Chris Clemons I think is making a push as well to lock his position down longer term. He looks like he's taken a little bit away from Reshad Jones, who isn't playing all that amazing right now.

Caleb Sturgis has some range.

Lotsa good points there. My only thing is, I thought I noticed Indy putting an overload of guys on the line several times there, as well as several guys chipping. We didn't make them pay with secondary play/interceptions.

Luck is good, but he looked REALLY good today. We're pretty bad at covering tight ends...but I've watched several other games, and it would appear most teams are in the same boat. TEs are looking all-world.

wheeler and ellerbe combine for 26 tackles and a sack

I dont know what some people are looking at. Sometimes I think they want to a be a qb expert so bad they find things to be critical of for the sake of showing how smart they are

The defense finally started gettin pressure on Luck but Tannehill had alot of pressure all game. He played well, the offense played well and teh defense played well when they needed it.

Matt Moore is a great back up, we didnt get Luck or RGIII, we have a very good qb that can be elite, lets enjoy being 2-0 instead of trying find ways to tear a Phin players game down

"BlameItOnTheHenne wrote:

Tannehill needs to use his legs more. Gotta improve his pocket awareness first, though.

there was the one read option play that i saw and he handed the ball off and had the whole left side of the field to himself.
he did misread the coverage on that one.

"Alex13 wrote:

wheeler and ellerbe combine for 26 tackles and a sack

i agree they were solid this game. i also believe they are a better fit to this D then their replacements.

I was pretty happy with what I saw out of Tannehill today, but I feel like he's too hesitant to run and make something from nothing rather than taking a sack. I think at least a couple of the sacks he took could have been avoided.

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

Lotsa good points there. My only thing is, I thought I noticed Indy putting an overload of guys on the line several times there, as well as several guys chipping. We didn't make them pay with secondary play/interceptions.

Luck is good, but he looked REALLY good today. We're pretty bad at covering tight ends...but I've watched several other games, and it would appear most teams are in the same boat. TEs are looking all-world.

we didn't have enough pass rush to get in his face today. he looked alright but we held them in check and that was the gameplane, imo.
did he get it done in the 4th quarter? No...
Tanny looked better than him this game and won the game to boot. A big step for him and the team as a whole.

"54Fins wrote:

we didn't have enough pass rush to get in his face today. he looked alright but we held them in check and that was the gameplane, imo.
did he get it done in the 4th quarter? No...
Tanny looked better than him this game and won the game to boot. A big step for him and the team as a whole.

Oh I'm most definitely glad we got the win, I'll take 'em however I can get 'em, but he was shredding with his TEs (probably a dead horse, but it gets old).

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

Oh I'm most definitely glad we got the win, I'll take 'em however I can get 'em, but he was shredding with his TEs (probably a dead horse, but it gets old).

What hurts is giving up yards to TE's for over a decade. A problem that seems to haunt us.....:sad:

"54Fins wrote:

there was the one read option play that i saw and he handed the ball off and had the whole left side of the field to himself.
he did misread the coverage on that one.

It very well could have been just a called handoff with a QB roll out after. I didn't even see him try to read the end. You could be right however. Its hard to tell.