Miami - Pro Football Weekly
Things have been surprisingly quiet on the contract front for ILB Channing Crowder. The fourth-year veteran is in the final season of his rookie deal, prompting some to wonder why the Dolphins are taking such a passive approach to locking him up long term.
I think they are waiting to see if Channing finally lives up to his potential. If he doesn't I don't see him coming back.
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Yeah, gonna upset a few on here (Amanda) but I just dont think he has done anything to warrent talks.
Of course, he still has ohhhhh 8 weeks or so to change that, and I hope he does....but to date. NADA54Fins, like2god and Fin Fan In Cali like this. -
Id wait to see how her performs this year until I start talks him. Id tell him at least that were interested in extending his deal, as long as he performs. Then see how it goes from there..
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Carey is the one I would like to see locked up, before free agency starts.
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THIS is the FA we have absolutely got to lock up before this season is even over.calphin likes this. -
I think crowder knows that production is what gains contracts.
I also think that the FO might be looking to the draft for a ILB if talks don't ensue with crowder. They have a while to go before it's important, though.
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I like Channing. I think he deserves 4 years and 16 mil.
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Sorry, but to date he as SERIOUSLY under-achieved. He has shown a bit of greatness this year, but I am just disappointed it has taken him 3 seasons and now a contract year to finally look "Alright".NyPhinfan, gunn34, Fin Fan In Cali and 1 other person like this. -
He has been very disappointing this year IMO. In the off-season, he was making all the calls, making plays and looked great out there. He studied film and worked out, 2 1/2 hours after practice. We heard so much positives about him. In the pre-season, he looked pretty good and then this season hasn't done squat. In the Arizona game, he looked really bad imo. He was just running downhill and focusing in one player (i.e. on the 3rd and 7 when AZ was backed up on their goalline, Hightower took a handoff and Crowder went right by him, focusing in on Warner). I don't know if he's developed his game since he's come into the league. He still looks like the same rookie to me and if he doesn't shape up, he'll be replaced.
He complained about the money he was making, saying he was underpaid. Well, they basically said to him to show them he deserves a pay raise and so far he hasn't showed that he deserves it. I originally said to see how he does through midseason and then maybe give hima deal. Now, I'd wait to see how he plays out the whole season and then evaluate him and consider giving him a new deal. -
Or the way he has played NOT give him a new deal :shifty: -
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Uh ? I don't know who you are anymore.:lol:
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Yeah, me neither. They keep hanging a moniker on me.
I just keep waiting for the beer to show up that they promised me... :pity:
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Guys like Clint Sintim, Luis Vasquez may be able to make he transition to ILB - who knows, he'd be either a 7th or UDFA anyway. I have to wonder what a guy like Julius Williams (UConn)would be able to do at a 3-4 OLB also. I know that isn't what this thread is about but I thought I'd better raise his name. Cody Brown gets a great deal of the pub and I don't know why. I've watched Cody Brown to see if he fits into the OLB mold for a 3-4 team and so far he underwhelmed me. He has decent hands and feet, although he struggles to disengage sometimes. When he breaks free he doesn't have an elite closing burst, nor is he a consistent hustler out there. You can run at him as he doesn't anchor down well, he will try to slip the block rather than being fundamental and stack and shed.
Williams ont he other regularly mans the strong side and he anchors much better than Brown. He isn't exceptionally fleet of foot either, but he is more physical in his hand use and variety of passrushing moves. He actually lead the team with 8.5 sacks last year. He is much more of a stack and shed type of a player. he dips his hips and plays with good leverage. He gets off of blocks better than you think and is always around the ball, and he hustles too.
If you watch tape of UConn check out #45 and compare him to #50, tell me who jumpa off the screen more.alen1 likes this. -
As for Virginia's Appleby, he's played all the LB spots as well as Defensive End. I believe we talked about Appleby in the Michael Crabtree thread in the Club. Appleby has good lateral speed, good quickness and is a solid tackler. Has size, 6'3, 250 but I wonder about his forty. I've seen him in the 4.7 range, maybe to slow?
Larry English, the OLB/DE from NIU is an interesting prospect. 6'3, 255 and runs a 4.7. I've seen little video of him but from the video, I thought he used his hands pretty well, he's quick and likes to try to overpower Tackles with the bulrush. I've read that he's in the Terrell Suggs mold. Your thoughts on him?
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Appleby is meh.
Larry English makes me wuestion what he'll do against the big boys when his "man amongst boys" routine doesn't work. Can he disengage from the big OT's, is he fast enough off the edge with a good enough base to handle the run game? I think we really need to see him in the Shrine Game or something of that nature.
CK turned me on to Pannel Egboh - Stanford - they play ND this weekend.
Brian Orakpo but he isn't very dynamic or explosive to be honest.
I'd like to make George Selvie a OLB but CK I think would tar and feather me if I did. :lol:
I'm gonna take a look at two guys from Illinois - Will Davis and Derrick Walker.
To be honest it seems as though there are more LOLB's in this draft than ROLB's unless some Juniors jump in.alen1 likes this. -
IF we don't resign him then that just means there is a strong chance we go ILB in the draft.
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Crowder has played well and will likely be re-signed. Has he played pro bowl football? No.
But he has played well enough in his first 2+ years to warrant an extension. This is article is just making something out of nothing.
You could have replaced "Crowder" with "Carey" and it would have been the same thing.
There's no reason for a new regime to rush into resigning players from older guards. If Carey and Crowder continue to perform, I'm sure both will be re-signed.Fin Fan In Cali likes this. -
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I agree with what most have already stated.
Crowder provides nothing that we couldn't get much much cheaper next year (assuming he gets approximately 4 yr 16 mil)
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I've said this before, Crowder is always a step behind it seems. He seldom blows up any plays. I too think we could get what little production he gives from a rookie.
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I will give Crowder his due today, he played a lot better. Let's see how the season goes, and perhaps he can prove me wrong.:wink2:
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a backup?
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Seriously, this guy is playing excellent football and is part of an excellent defensive unit, but some of you act like he's some sort of liability.
Sure, it would be nice to get a few more turnovers, but nobody else generating any either, so what's the problem?
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As far as Will Allen goes a lot of people have been concerned over the years about his lack of hands, but he blankets his guy well and doesn't get beat a lot most of the time (Arizona excluded). This team needs a playmaker in the backfield to come up with turnovers also, but Will Allen is at least at worse a solid #2 for another few years (if his gambling issue gets resolved ;p ).
Right now my draft picks/FA's would focus at finding a true #1 WR, a true #1 CB, ILB and a FS would be my main 4 areas for this offseason. -
he might come cheap...i would sign him for cheap if we have to for a short term deal
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He actually had his least productive game of the season today, but even still, managed to get pressure on Rivers in spots, including a nice pass tip on a third down in the first half.
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If he keeps up his play level Im sure we will open negotiation. It could also be that his agent realized or heard he wasnt going to get an offer hed like and wants Crowder to put together a bit better resume before going after bigger $$.