Hmm, I thought he has been whore dogging it on the NBA Wives program?

 

This guy makes me nervous; a D-Lineman's living is made on his legs, and this guy had two injuries there without even playing a game in his rookie season. Not to mention that he has an injury history.

 

Hindsight is 20/20, but damn I wish we took Carlos Dunlap.

 

He broke his leg in college and had a plate and screws inserted.

 

This one

 

He played in the Buffalo game, and subsequently got hurt in it.

 

I’m not worried about that so much as I’m worried about where he’ll get snaps from. You have to assume that Langford, Soliai, and Starks are still the three starters. So where does Odrick fit in? Is he going to start over Starks? Doubtful, at least right now. That leaves him to take Tony McDaniel’s snaps, with Merling backing up Langford.

Basically, we used a first round pick to replace our fourth defensive lineman.

 

But in fairness that's a problem the FO couldn't predict would occur. I mean really, Soliai really turned it on, I think they were just about given up on him. On the bright side we've got one of the strongest D Lines we've had in a long while.

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see Odrick starting over Langford at some point.

 

When a mistake (misevaluation of Soliai) leads to another mistake (drafting Odrick), then we don’t get to turn around and say that everything worked out. It didn’t. Some other guys we could have had at 28: Rodger Saffold, Jahvid Best, T.J. Ward, Rob Gronkowski. Or we could have stayed at 12 and taken Earl Thomas, Maurkice Pouncey, or Mike Iupati.

“They didn’t foresee” isn’t an excuse, it’s a compounding. Let’s be honest about it. I am, and hell, I like Ireland and think he’s doing a good job!

I would.

 

IIRC some analysts felt he "fell" to us........ but maybe other teams simply passed on him b/c they were concerned about future injuries. Just throwing it out there. I don't like leg injuries on big men, especially lower ones, and even more especially ones that involve bones. That's just my philosophy.

IMO not all people are created equal, and some are either tougher to damage or are more resilient....... or both. I haven't broken a bone in my life, although I've seen other people break stuff from similarly extreme incidences....... and I've known people who've easily broken bones when it normally shouldn't have happened.

 

Odrick is going to have no problems getting whatever snaps he merits. Our defensive ends last year totaled about 2200 snaps between them in their various roles, and our starters got about 750 a piece(Which is about about normal "starting" snaps for a DT or 3-4 DE). You can essentially fit three full-time "starters" in that snap count. It'll mean that the #4 guy is essentially getting nothing barring injury, but I don't think that's a problem.

I think Odrick can very easily end up "starting" over Starks, in that he's a better choice for the base 2-gap 3-4. Starks run defense took a **** this year, while he pass rush was pretty much the same, and that to me suggests going from Pasqualoni's 1-gap defense to Nolan's 2-gap was a problem, and given that it isn't likely to go anywhere Starks might be better getting his snaps re-focused on passing downs.

 

Heavy rotation is a given in any defensive line, but how we got to this situation is pretty bizarre. Drafted a guy to replace a guy who replaced another guy who winds up getting $12 million bucks.

 

I don't think this guy will ever be healthy enough to be on the field for any solid amount of time. He is a foot injury waiting to happen again and again.

 

It's strange, but I think it was certainly a contingency they had considered. Soliai up until Ferguson went down was here based on his potential rather than merits, and this administration was a whole lot more tolerant of both Soliai not "biting" as a rookie and whatever it is that got him in the doghouse than they've been for many a players. He was probably on his last legs when he paid off, but he was still on the roster.

I don't know it would be all that particularly unprecedented for them to draft Odrick even without them moving Starks to NT. Look at what Bill Belichick did in New England. He already had 1st rounders in Richard Seymour and Ty Warren that were under contract and dominant, had a high quality backup in Jarvis Green, then spent another 2nd round pick on the late Marquise Hill.

 

Medical opinions are for medical professionals.

 

I think adding Odrick even with Starks still at DE would have been at least a little strange. The thing about New England is, they already have a quarterback. They could invest those high picks in their DL rotation because QB was settled. They were also likely taking a long-term view, adding talented youth now in order to transition away from Seymour, Wilfork, and Warren. Seymour is obviously already gone (thanks, Al Davis), Wilfork got paid, and Warren probably isn’t too much longer for the NFL.

Basically, if we had landed Flacco instead of Merling, Odrick would be a jewel in Ireland’s crown.

 

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Well excuse me,:tongue2:

 

The resources used to get Odrick probably could not have been turned into a quality quarterback.

Hill was drafted with Seymour still having two years on his rookie contract, and was extended a year before his death. Hill was drafted a year after Warren was drafted, and he was under his rookie contract for at least another 4 years. Can't find numbers for Green but he was halfway through his rookie contract at worst.

 

Come on Ga, no one knows either way, he claims he is ready and they have not missed on a medical issue on a young player as of yet.

Thing with Odie is, Langford and Merling both should be up for FA at the end of this yr, he is a high quality replacement for either one, assuming of course GA's prophecy of doom does not come true..:lol:

 

Odrick...the little train that could. I think I can, I think I can...

 

:lol: Glad football opinions are not just for football professionals.

 

you guys are way too down on the dude. The sad part in all this is that he was making plays early on in that Buffalo game. I could see him earn a starting spot if he remains healthy.

 

Des, you know this is a frustrating as hell subject for me, been writing about it all offseason...The only way we come out of this smelling good, is if Odrick beats out starks, than we trade Starks for a 2nd rounder...Iam not into have first round picks come off the bench...MCD is gonna walk...with no compensation for developing his ***....As the irish would say...''were fooked''...

In this situation I can only hope Irish has a way to keep our top 5 and get rid of merling...

 

Now that could better my mood, I could have a former 3rd round pick comin off the bench...I believe he played on the right side all thru training camp..that would be a switch for him...I did see alot of Hong kong phuey on that left side in college though.

 

Well Deej, when the Pats defense was good:

-Ty Warren #13 overall
-Vince Woolfork #24 overall
-Richard Seymour #8 overall
-Jarvis Green 4th rd pick

They used to spend huge resources on their Dline, since they stopped doing so their Defense just has not been as good, which is why:

-Langford
-Soliai
-Starks
-Odrick
-Merling

Does not bother me very much, if anything adding them so cheaply is a good job by Jeff Ireland.

 

Everybody is ready........ until the next time it happens. lol.

 

I can't work with you..:no:

:lol:

 

Agreed. Could have turned into another quality player at what is certainly a greater position of need. I listed a few on page 1. I think we’d all be happy to have Pouncey, Saffold, or Best.

To me, that says they were drafting a guy in preparation for the current starter possibly leaving.

 

Lordy padre, I was just expressing my opinion on the internet. You would think the way some react I had called Dan Marino a pot smoker and lousy QB to boot. :lol:

Some need to get a grip and chill! Have a beer and go look into the mirror!:lol::lol:

If this FO/HC group worried about the o-line as much as the D-line we wouldn't be in this dang mess to begin with. Of course with saying that I'm sure I'll be dressed down as being a non pro football guru. :lol:

 

gafinfan=prophet of doom

:lol:

Whole lot of Olinemen busts GA, it is not that they have not tried to address it, they just suck at finding players to address the oline.

 

I'm a medical professional and I too believe that Odrick will have nagging injuries that will shorten his career and affect his playing ability. I think the Dr's screwed (no pun intended) this one up. Now, I'll happily eat crow if I'm wrong, because I do hope I'm wrong, but I bet he never plays a complete season.

 

You've been banging that drum for awhile iirc?

I think he'll be fine as if Keith Byars foot issues can be corrected, on such a longer, more durable bone such as his tibia(shin) should be able to be repaired, I also think the once vaunted power lifting program sometimes does more harm than good.

 

That's why his pick last year was HORRIBLE. Unless he makes a dramatic comeback this year, its another 1st round Dolphins blunder. Ireland better hope he makes it back or that there ALONE is enough to fire Ireland.

 

He played a total of 5 plays, and was hurt in the 1st 3 minutes or so of the season. That to my qualifies as NOT PLAYING IN A SEASON !

 

When we needed offensive help.....way to go Ireland ! :tantrum:

 

And the worst offense maybe EVER for this franchise.

 

He took like 5 snaps........c'mon......that is not "making plays".