https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/01/report-dolphins-expected-to-cut-ryan-tannehill/
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Exciting that we can move on..
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Surprised how much people care about Tannehill's presence on the team considering that it's been stated we're pretty much going to be tanking while looking for the future. What does it matter if Tannehill stays or goes if we don't care about winning next year?
To my mind that 13 million dead space in 2020 is more important.Tin Indian and mbsinmisc like this. -
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Queue the angry uneducated posters on this site saying "I can't believe they didn't try to get a 2nd round pick for him!"
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Dude was a coach killer and I wish him nothing but the worst on his way out to the door for subjecting us to 7 years of his nonsense. -
Damn it don't these NFL personnel men know they are missing out on this hidden gem? Give him an a top OL, run game, defense, TE/WR's and coach and you are guaranteed a super bowl appearance.
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Nick Foles is staying in Philly (they just announced that he's getting the franchise tag at $20M), so Tannehill will likely be the hottest QB on the market this season. If we don't get a deal inked though and flat out cut him (thereby resetting his contract), I think Belichek jumps at the chance to sign him IF he can get the deal signed before Gase.resnor and Dol-Fan Dupree like this. -
All it takes is two teams thinking that Tannehill can do well in their system and that $18 million salary looks good and a 2nd or 3rd looks like a reasonable trade.
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Where Tannehill does badly it’s when chaos happens or the opposition defenses are throwing unfamiliar looks at him. Even his maligned pocket presence isn’t that bad when he can anticipate where the pressure will come from.
When the Dolphins OL sometimes hold their blocks and sometimes whiff completely is when we’ve seen the worst of Tannehill. When you have a deep threat that runs consistent routes (Kenny Stills) Tannehill is on the money with the deep ball. When the receiver runs whatever they want to (Mike Wallace) he has problems.
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Cam Newton 1.000%
Alex Smith 1.000%
Russel Wilson 1.000%
Drew Brees .600%
Blake Bortles .500%
Sam Bradford .500%
Colin Kaepernick .500%
Marcus Mariota .500%
Matthew Stafford .500%
Big Ben .400% -
(a) you believe at least one other team wants the same player; and
(b) you estimate the additional FA cost (over and above the current contract) will exceed the value of the pick you’re willing to give up; and
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- For Cam Newton, Alex Smith and Russell Wilson who all have 2-0 regular season records against NE, the 95% confidence interval goes from 0.342 to 1.000, which (barely) includes Tannehill's win%. That means 2-0 is so small a sample size that random variation alone could be entirely responsible for the difference between Tannehill's win% and those 3 QB's.
- Similarly, for Brees' 3-2 record against NE the 95% CI is from 0.231 to 0.882 which again includes Tannehill's win%, etc...
Anyway, just pointing out that when you take sample size into account none of those win percentage differences mean much. They all fall within a range where the differences in win% are consistent with random variation alone being responsible. Doesn't mean that's the case, just that those stats don't make the argument.The Guy, resnor, Pauly and 1 other person like this. -
When Gase was shown the door, and even prior to his showing of the door, many said his success in Denver was attributed to Manning and he was never that great of a coach.
So either Tannehill killed these GREAT coaches we foolishly let go or these coaches were never really any good to begin with...so Tannehill didn’t really kill anything worth keeping.
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There's a way to "square the circle" with this coach killer claim.
Neither Philbin nor Gase ever showed they were great coaches. In both cases their reputations were undeservedly enhanced because they coached HoF QB's. What makes Tannehill a "coach killer" is that those no-better-than-average coaches believed they could win with him. In other words, it's because those coaches weren't great that they decided to stick with Tannehill, which ended up costing them their jobs.
This still makes Tannehill a "coach killer" but with a slightly different meaning: it's the coach's fault for sticking with him.
The only asterisk here is that Philbin actually wanted to move away from Tannehill and draft Carr, but Carr isn't proving to be the solution at QB either, so this isn't as big of an asterisk as it would be otherwise (can't just identify the problem.. have to identify the solution).jdallen1222 and The Guy like this. -
If Tannehill gets a second chance on a half way decent team he will be just fine, perhaps better than in Miami.
The signal the team is sending to their fans and players is that this season is a lost cause. They want to lose to increase their chances to pick high. This is a horrible signal for fans - how many will go see a game knowing that they won't be trying that hard? Why bother even watching? Has there ever been a team in history that has come out and said we are not going to even bother this season? They know with Tannehill they can win a lot of games and maybe even get to the play offs but why not trade away all good players and start from scratch at this point. If you are going to throw a season away then go all in on it and start again. I am sure that the incoming coach fro NE would not want this to happen. A team should never give up. Never no matter what the cost. -
It's not easy to do of course. You need to hit on a lot of draft picks. But if that's the reward I'm totally for it. For me the only goal is winning the SB and we haven't done that in 45 years!! So I'll happily follow the team even if it's clear 2019 is meant to be a lost cause.. as long as that's part of the plan and they don't keep tanking in 2020 (enough examples to show turnaround time in football can be quite short).The Guy likes this. -
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Tough as nails. Still won't miss him though. Bye.mooseguts likes this. -
My prediction is that there isn’t a team in the league that will sign Tannehill expecting him to be its starter. This is the point at which he will become a backup QB in the NFL.
And if that happens, it should speak volumes to the people who believed that he was only the necessary environment away from becoming great.djphinfan likes this. -
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I can see a few teams trying him as a starter depending on how their offseason shakes out, though doubtfully as an entrenched starter with no alternatives (like we decided to do).
The Redskins would probably see him as an upgrade from whatever homeless guy they pulled out from in front of their gates. The Jags could take a flyer on him over Eli or Flacco if they don't want to go the rookie route.
Guys just get second chances (unless, y'know, that one dude) and so will he, it's the way the NFL operates. Doubt it will be at his scheduled pay level or a long term deal though.Pauly likes this.
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