2-0 on the road! Great feeling. Now we come home, so what can we expect in our first home game?
I looked at how Philbin's 2012 team performed on the road versus at home to look for clues. The data I could find was for games through Nov 29th 2012. This means 5 home games and 6 away games are included. I have tried, as much as possible, to use stats that are per game, or per carry, etc to make this a non factor. However, some stats, like # of TDs you must consider there was one more road game than home game when comparing them.
QB PLAY
Tannehill performed marginally better at home than on the road
ROAD
Completion % 58
TD % 1.7
INT % 4
Rating 71.1
HOME
Completion % 60
TD % 2.5
INT % 3.1
Rating 74.8
RUNNING
TEAM RUSHING - ROAD
YPC 3
TDs 5
TEAM RUSHING - HOME
YPC 5
TDs 8
LAMAR MILLER - ROAD
YPC 4
Receiving Yards Per Game 0
TDs 0
LAMAR MILLER - HOME
YPC 5.7
Receiving Yards Per Game 0
TDs 1
DANIEL THOMAS - ROAD
YPC 3.1
Receiving Yards Per Game 12.3
TDs 2
DANIEL THOMAS - HOME
YPC 4.5
Receiving Yards Per Game 12.6
TDs 2
OFFENSE #'s
OFFENSIVE POINTS SCORED UP PER GAME ROAD - 18.5
OFFENSIVE POINTS SCORED UP PER GAME HOME - 19.8
3RD DOWN - ROAD 31.5%
3RD DOWN - HOME 41.4%
SACKED (TIMES/YDS) ROAD - 15/105
SACKED (TIMES/YDS) HOME - 7/63
FUMBLES - ROAD 10
FUMBLES - HOME 3
PENALTIES ROAD - Penalized Once Every 11.8 plays
PENALTIES HOME - Penalized Once Every 11.1 plays
TD % HOME - TD every 26.1 plays
TD % ROAD - TD every 30.6 plays
DEFENSE #'s
3RD DOWN ALLOWED - ROAD 34.7%
3RD DOWN ALLOWED - HOME 34.2%
SACKS (TIMES/YDS) ROAD - 21/129
SACKS (TIMES/YDS) HOME - 8/40
TD % HOME - TD surrendered every 29.6 plays
TD % ROAD - TD surrendered every 38 plays
POINTS GIVEN UP PER GAME ROAD - 19.8
POINTS GIVEN UP PER GAME HOME - 21.4
INTS PER HOME GAME - 0.6
INTS PER ROAD GAME - 0.8
FUMBLE RECOVERIES PER ROAD GAME - 0.3
FUMBLE RECOVERIES PER HOME GAME - 0.2
SPECIAL TEAMS #'s
AVG PUNT ROAD - 49.4
AVG PUNT HOME - 50.8
[Omitting FGs due to new kicker.]
THIGPEN PUNT RETURN AVG ROAD - 16
THIGPEN PUNT RETURN AVG HOME - 11
THIGPEN KICK RETURN AVG ROAD - 31.1
THIGPEN KICK RETURN AVG HOME - 26.2
SPECIAL TEAMS TDS ROAD - 3
SPECIAL TEAMS TDS HOME - 0
Thoughts:
- QB play and passing game with Tannehill-Sherman-Philbin seems only marginally better at home than away.
- Rushing attack is noticeably better at home than away
- Combining better rushing info with lower sacks allowed, it appears Oline performs better at home
- Fewer INTS and Fumbles by the offense at home
- Unfortunately, the defense seems less hungry at home, with fewer sacks at home, more TDs surrendered per opponent snap.
- Special Teams produced longer returns and bigger plays on the road
Can we project anything from this? I think it's not a reliable amount of information, and there are so many variables this is more a fun exercise than really predictive one. That said I will be watching to see if the trend of the offense improving at home (especially run blocking and pass protection) continues, and whether the defense and special teams slack off at all.
If those things happen, we can expect a higher scoring shootout with Atlanta. Final score somewhere in the 30's for both teams. My hope is that our defense has taken another step this year, and will maintain their level of play at home, compared to on the road.
We'll see Sunday.
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For comparison's sake... here are our road stats so far:
OFFENSE
Points Per Game - 23.5
3rd down conversion - 46%
Rushing YPC - 2.4
Sacks Surrendered Per Game - 4.5
Lamar Miller YPC -
Daniel Thomas YPC -
DEFENSE
Points Per Game - 15
3rd down conversion - 27.5%
Rushing YPC - 4.6
Sacks Per Game - 4.5
INTs Per Game - 2
SPECIAL TEAMS
AVG PUNT RETURN - 2.8
AVG KICK REUTRN - 32.3Finrunner likes this. -
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Last year Miami lead the league in endzone touchdown percentage at home.
They were pretty bad on the road. -
I'm still looking at the stats and digesting...
...but I'd rather this thread win than your Piss on Jeff Ireland thread. Every once in a while maybe I'll just hit this thread with a "Free Dion Sims!!!" post for your benefit and to add to the count in this thread!Bpk likes this. -
Okay, love that. Our PPG against was still poor though. -
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Summarizing: a little better protection to go along with the better running game should help our play action passing game get even more big chunk plays than we've been seeing.
Of the stats presented, those two look like the biggest difference-makers for me at least in regard to the upcoming game.Bpk likes this. -
It seems to me that the sample size you used is way too small to make any significant statistical observations as to whether home games are played better than away games. Although there is a general consensus that home games are usually easier than away games. But if we take into account the quality of teams played home versus road we can see if that contributes in any way to the stats you presented.
HOME GAMES: Raiders (4-12), Jets (6-10), Patriots (12-4), Bills (6-10), Rams (7-8-1), Titans (6-10), Seahawks (11-5), Jaguars (2-14)
Total: 54-73-1
ROAD GAMES: Texans (12-4), Cardinals (5-11), Jets (6-10), Patriots (12-4), Bills (6-10), Bengals (10-6), Colts (11-5), 49ers (11-4-1),
Total: 73- 54-1
So you can see here that overall, the teams we played on the road were actually significantly better than the ones we played at home which in turn makes our stats at home also look better. In the end, though, as I said before, the sample size is way too small to draw any conclusions. -
Btw, sadly the 'Piss on Jeff Ireland' thread I started as the low brow comparison to this discussion is thriving as we few chat in here.
Fast food and reality TV win.
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I don't believe in any of those stats having anything to do with this year's team. Same staff pretty much, many of the same players, but MASSIVE changes and upgrades all around. I'll never forget Tanny getting trashed by the Texans last year. This team is much better than that game in my opinion...my optimism level is WAY higher this year.
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We'll know more after this year. Can look at year one trends. Then isolate year two trends. Ones that match are likely systemic patterns for this team on road vs home.PhinFan1968 likes this. -
Falcons were 5-1 last year on the road, at non-dome stadiums. They lost to the Panthers. Beatable, but tough as nails. Looking forward to this game.
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I think our secondary left the Colts receivers pretty wide open yesterday. At times they were playing off other times they pressed. They seemed to play better when they pressed. If Grimes had not intercepted that pass and we lost, the loss would have been squarely on the secondary. If it's not Nolan nimrod I can't get out of the way of my own shadow on special teams Carroll one week it's Chris stone hands Clemmons the next. Both are weak links.
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I'm tellin ya right now 68, Luck is gonna average 300 yards for the year, he's gonna get his vrs everybody.Bpk likes this. -
Hard to take stats from one year and project them into the next season.
I think we shut down the Falcons running game at home, but ST to the offense just remains to be seen.
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300 yards is no longer a good game for QBs guys. The new "good game" is 400. Just look at how many threw for 300 or more last week. So basically you also have to adjust that when talking about defensive performance. If you hold a QB to under 300 its a fantastic game. If they get 300 on you, its an average to slightly above average game. I think our secondary played fine against Luck, who I think at the end of the year will be in the top 5 in QB fantasy points.
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With Roddy White still working through his injury, we just have to watch out for J. Jones and Tony TD Gonzales. I dont think Steven Jackson has it in him with our front 7.
I also think the stadium might be sold out and our D should reap the benefits.
Good work on your analysis, though, I think the environmental variables (crowd noise) wont be as weak as they were last year.
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