Dolphins@Bills, or stop blaming every ****ing thing but Ryan Tannehill

People can't - or won't - blame Tannehill because he is this franchise's savior right now.
And if we whiffed on him this franchise has nothing to be excited about.

I don't see how you can say it's not the OL and to a lesser degree the WRs as well.

Tannehill hasn't been great the last few weeks but he's running for his life and getting way too many passes dropped.

That and Reggie is still playing like a *****.

it really seems like the injury has affected Tannehill. It's gotten into his head. He's been getting hit and he's shying away from making the strong plays down field. Hanging in there. Between his injury and Reggie's injury affecting what he did, the offense has really been sent into a tail spin.

And then there's Jared Odrick... He was supposed to be fairly decent against the run... we knew he had the limitations as a pass rusher. I thought he had a great motor coming out of Penn State. But he has seemingly bulked up to the point that he has lost any quickness/chase down ability. He looks like he's playing at 350 pounds when he's probably around 305. but tonight he couldn't even stop the run to his side. TIGHT ENDS were setting the edge on him. A TIGHT END!!!! He is seemingly better fit for a 34 front with an outside linebacker covering him... than a 43 end where he is the open end, last line of defense on the outside. He can't set the edge... he can't edge rush. He's sadly looking like a major bust of a pick and that goes directly at Ireland. Final straw in my book. It just has to be.

"slickj101 wrote:

I don't see how you can say it's not the OL and to a lesser degree the WRs as well.

Tannehill hasn't been great the last few weeks but he's running for his life and getting way too many passes dropped.

That and Reggie is still playing like a *****.

It's all that.
And yet you still love Ireland.
That's what I don't get.

Agreed his play has regressed but if you think the OL hasnt had something to do with it and the lack of weapons havent had something to do with it you are sadly mistaken. Aside from Pouncey and Jerry the line has pretty much been atrocious for 3 weeks running now. Martin needs the weight room, Incognito Id save specifically for Jet games cause he seems to get up for them, and Long needs to be franchised and traded cause he is done as an elite Tackle. I mean Jake is not even good right now, let alone elite. Jake had allowed 3 sacks 6 hits and 6 hurries coming in to this game and it felt like he allowed that tonight.

"slickj101 wrote:

I don't see how you can say it's not the OL and to a lesser degree the WRs as well.

Tannehill hasn't been great the last few weeks but he's running for his life and getting way too many passes dropped.

That and Reggie is still playing like a *****.

Last week per PFF, there was 9 pass rush-related "plays" given up by the offensive line out of 40 drop-backs. 6 of those plays came from Jonathan Martin, a guy Tannehill should pretty well know is not playing well, and whose pressure he should be able to sense.

I don't know that this week serves as any better a mitigating factor. Jonathan Martin got blown up several times, but I'm not sure there was much pressure elsewhere, or that overall it was too frequent.

"PSG wrote:

It's all that.
And yet you still love Ireland.
That's what I don't get.

And all that isn't directly Ireland's fault, which you don't get.

I'll gladly await to hear how Bush who was once running with authority but now turned back to a daisy is Ireland's fault.

"Disgustipate wrote:

Last week per PFF, there was 9 pass rush-related "plays" given up by the offensive line out of 40 drop-backs. 6 of those plays came from Jonathan Martin, a guy Tannehill should pretty well know is not playing well, and whose pressure he should be able to sense.

I don't know that this week serves as any better a mitigating factor. Jonathan Martin got blown up several times, but I'm not sure there was much pressure elsewhere, or that overall it was too frequent.

What about Jake Long?

Getting owned by Merriman can't be a good sign.

There isn't enough blame to go around for why this team is ****ting the bed. It starts in the FO and trickles down to the majority of the players on the field. Maybe next week we can just send out a white flag at kickoff and spare us the agony of another lackluster pathetic performance.

"PSG wrote:

It's all that.
And yet you still love Ireland.
That's what I don't get.

And nobody loooves Ireland.

You're 39, stop talking like a 12 year-old girl.

Our offensive line is absolutely a problem. I don't know what the hell happened but we can't run for **** right now. This is the 3rd straight game I thought our running game would be stellar and it's like the defenses have 20 guys at the line of scrimmage.

"Boik14 wrote:

Agreed his play has regressed but if you think the OL hasnt had something to do with it and the lack of weapons havent had something to do with it you are sadly mistaken. Aside from Pouncey and Jerry the line has pretty much been atrocious for 3 weeks running now. Martin needs the weight room, Incognito Id save specifically for Jet games cause he seems to get up for them, and Long needs to be franchised and traded cause he is done as an elite Tackle. I mean Jake is not even good right now, let alone elite. Jake had allowed 3 sacks 6 hits and 6 hurries coming in to this game and it felt like he allowed that tonight.

Long didn't come even close to allowing that. He gave up minimal pressure, you're letting him getting blown up by Merriman(On a play having nothing to do with pass protection) characterize your views. He may end up being credited with allowing a sack on a play where his defender didn't actually achieve any pressure, but other than that there really was not much.

Tannehill seems incapable of bringing the team back from behind at the end of games.

Ireland: "we have a bunch of 4's, 5's, and 6's."

He even ****ed up that evaluation.

Hartline and Bess are clear cut 2's and 3's.

I despise the conservative approach they take with Tannehill, it's as if they don't want him to look bad but he won't grow throwing 5 yd outs on 3rd and 10's.

OL was atrocious, at this point they should probably bench some folks or just accept this is the process.

I can handle the losses, and we are in for a rough patch of them what I'd prefer to see is losing with young guys with upside over vets who don't make plays.

"Disgustipate wrote:

It's not the OL, it's not the receivers, it's not the lack of running game. Those guys are all playing pretty close to the way they have the entire season.

I respectfully disagree with this. All 3 have been abysmal the last 3 weeks. Not sure if it is a coaching issue, or a flat our personal issue, i am not convinced yet, but something's not right there. I personally think it's the latter.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Our offensive line is absolutely a problem. I don't know what the hell happened but we can't run for **** right now. This is the 3rd straight game I thought our running game would be stellar and it's like the defenses have 20 guys at the line of scrimmage.

Notice that when he went down the field, the offense moved the ball, when they take the Hennesque approach we got shut down rather easily.

As for Ireland, he did land Thigpen, as usual with him it is a mixed bag, as good as Thigpen can be, Egnew/Miller's non factorness is a check against him.

"slickj101 wrote:

And nobody loooves Ireland.

You're 39, stop talking like a 12 year-old girl.

Figure of speech bro. Relax. I'll call you guys supporters for now on if that makes you feel better.
The point is we continue to have holes that don't get fixed, while creating new ones. I don't understand why you want to continue to give Ireland a pass.

"slickj101 wrote:

And all that isn't directly Ireland's fault, which you don't get.

I'll gladly await to hear how Bush who was once running with authority but now turned back to a daisy is Ireland's fault.

Wasn't Reggie Bush Tony Sparano's "pet" acquisition? IIRC he was. That was after that "Dolphins Roundtable" where Sparano had some more control over personnel come his way after Harbaugh-gate.

Have to admit the wife asked me why they don't play Matt Moore.

"PSG wrote:

Figure of speech bro. Relax. I'll call you guys supporters for now on if that makes you feel better.
The point is we continue to have holes that don't get fixed, while creating new ones. I don't understand why you want to continue to give Ireland a pass.

lol How about you look at it like a grown up and realize it's not black/white.

I'm a realist. I like some of what Ireland's done and hate some of his other moves.

That being said I'm not going to cry about it like a bitch when things go bad either way.

"Boik14 wrote:

Agreed his play has regressed but if you think the OL hasnt had something to do with it and the lack of weapons havent had something to do with it you are sadly mistaken. Aside from Pouncey and Jerry the line has pretty much been atrocious for 3 weeks running now. Martin needs the weight room, Incognito Id save specifically for Jet games cause he seems to get up for them, and Long needs to be franchised and traded cause he is done as an elite Tackle. I mean Jake is not even good right now, let alone elite. Jake had allowed 3 sacks 6 hits and 6 hurries coming in to this game and it felt like he allowed that tonight.

correct. it all starts up front... all of it. offense and defense. and right now, both sides of the ball are getting their asses handed to them. plain and simple. Not rocket science. Now our defensive line did play better as the game went on tonight... I'll give them that. They did stop the Bills in the second half when they needed to. I think they pitched a shutout in the second half if I'm not mistaken. But offensively... and then we get in third and long... just like the last few years, we have NO shot at converting. And Tannehill appears to be smarter than Henne in this regard in that he KNOWS we can't convert those. So he takes the 8 yard run up the middle against a three man rush. There's no way five of our offensive guys are going to beat EIGHT of their defensive guys for a 14 yard completion in the time it takes our offensive line to protect him. Why bother?

"slickj101 wrote:

lol How about you look at it like a grown up and realize it's not black/white.

I'm a realist. I like some of what Ireland's done and hate some of his other moves.

That being said I'm not going to cry about it like a bitch when things go bad either way.

You calling me a bitch?

"xphinfanx wrote:

Have to admit the wife asked me why they don't play Matt Moore.

your wife thinks he's cute too eh?